10 Sep What is a Veteran? The Legal Definition
What is a Veteran? Title 38 of the Code of Federal Regulations defines a veteran as “a person who served in the active military, naval, or air service and who was discharged or released under conditions other than dishonorable.”
This definition explains that any individual that completed a service for any branch of armed forces classifies as a veteran as long as they were not dishonorably discharged. This meaning also answers the question, “who is a veteran?”
However, with regard to applicable benefits, other considerations are important and will be covered in later sections.
In this article we’ll discuss who or what is a veteran, the definition and meaning, and service types and time requirements to be considered a veteran.
Who Qualifies as a “Veteran” for Compensation, Pension, and Benefits?
Most people understand that those who served in the military are veterans.
But what they actually need to know is what type of veteran “status” qualifies them for various benefits, such as Tricare or pension benefits.
References:
- Definition of the Term Veteran – For purposes of compensation, Dependency and Indemnity Compensation (DIC), and death pension, see
38 CFR 3.1(d), and Paulson v. Brown, 7 Vet.App. 466, 470 (1995), and - Groups approved for Veteran status under Public Law (PL) – Please see 95-202 and 106-259, at the following link, M21-1, Part III, Subpart iii, 2.K.3.
- Tricare – Click here to learn about Tricare eligibility and, for those over age 65, you can learn about Tricare for Life (TFL) by clicking here.
- Veterans Pensions – We also have an article explaining who qualifies for a pension.
Veteran Definition – How Long Do You Have to Be in the Military to Be a Veteran?
You have seen from the title 38 definition above that there is no minimum time of service required to be considered a “veteran” so long as you served on active duty.
But the real question is to what purpose you want to be called a veteran. If it is to receive veteran benefits, as we have seen, the requirements may differ from whether or not people will call you a veteran.
Also note that active duty service members differ from reservists and the National Guard, as we will see below.
These groups must have served on active duty for a period of 180 days or more to be considered a veteran (again, without having been discharged dishonorably).
Veteran Meaning – Understanding the Difference Between Types of Military Service
There are a larger variety of services an individual can be a part of than is generally believed. As you will see, the veteran meaning may change based on the type of military service you do. The following are descriptions of each to help you steer your way through:
Full-time
Active-duty service is simply full-time. Active-duty members are available for duty 24 hours per day, 7 days a week, with the exclusion of leave (vacation) or pass (authorized time off). Active-duty members fall under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Department of Defense and can serve in the Army, Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard.
Remember:
If an individual served active-duty service, it is credible toward length-of-service requirements when qualifying for veterans benefits.
Part-Time
Performing duties one weekend per month, plus two weeks of training per year, members of the Reserves and National Guard are considered part-time, though, since the Gulf War in 1990, they’ve spent exponentially more time called to full-time active duties. In fact, National Guards and Reserves generally spend two years of their six-year enlistment performing full-time active duty.
Reserves – Are Reservists Veterans?
Many people ask if Army Reserves are considered veterans or in general, if reservists are veterans.
The objective of the Reserves is to deliver supplementary support to active-duty forces when obligated. All of the different military services have a Reserve branch under the patronage of the Department of Defense: Army Reserve, Air Force Reserve, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve.
Though it doesn’t count as active-duty time for most veterans’ benefits, when an individual joins the Reserves, they attend basic training and military job school full time. After completion of basic training and military job school, those considered Reserves resume civilian life, except for training called inactive duty training (IDT) which takes place one weekend per month.
Reserves, however, do complete 14 days of full-time training once a year. The training is categorized as active duty for training (ADT). Neither IDT nor ADT counts toward service requirements for veteran’s benefits.
The president and secretary of defense can request those in the Reserves to active duty at any time in order to increase efforts on certain military projects. Approximately 65,000 Reserves are performing active duty in support of military contingency operations at any given moment.
This type of active duty counts toward veterans’ benefits.
National Guard – Are National Guard Veterans?
The principal difference between the National Guard and the Reserves is that the federal government is in charge of the Reserves, while the National Guard units predominately belong to individual states.
To those who ask why National Guard members are not considered veterans, they can be! Currently, National Guard is considered veterans if they served over 20 years even if they don’t get deployed. Prior to 2016, they were considered veterans only if they served 180 days or more in a federal status, such as serving on active status.
There are two National Guard types: the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard. National Guard members attend basic training and military job school full time under ADT (active duty for training), similar to the Reserves.
They resume daily civilian life but train one weekend per month (IDT) in addition to 15 full-time training days per year. This type of IDT/ADT time doesn’t count toward veterans’ benefits.
State governors can call National Guard members to active duty if a state emergency arises. Such emergencies include relief or protection of property and people outside the authority of local law enforcement. This form of state duty is known officially as “Title 38 Call-up” and doesn’t count toward veteran’s benefits either.
Like the Reserves, the president and secretary of defense can call upon the National Guard in the provision of military contingency operations, known as “Title 10 Call-ups” or federal duty. This type of duty counts toward service requirements for veterans’ benefits.
In a given month, an estimated 40,000 members of the Air and Army National Guard are performing federal duty overseas.
Active Guard/Reserves
A program called the Active Guard/Reserves (AGR) includes members of the Reserves and National Guard that take part in full-time active duty. To make sure that National Guard and Reserve units are ready to mobilize at all times, AGR members provide daily operational support.
For veteran’s benefit service requirements, AGR duty is similar to full-time active-duty service.
Individual Ready Reserve
A military service contract spans a minimum of eight years total and the time that isn’t spent on active duty or in the Guard/Reserves must be spent in inactive reserves, known as the Individual Ready Reserves (IRR).
Generally, after serving four years, a member is transferred to the IRR for their remaining four years. IRR members don’t take part in weekend drills or annual training, but unfortunately, they don’t get paid either. IRR members can be recalled into active duty when necessary, in order to support military projects.
During IRR status, the time spent inactive doesn’t count toward veteran’s benefits unless the member is recalled into active duty.
Roughly 15,000 IRR members have been recalled to active duty, largely for the Army and Marine Corps, every year since 2004.
See Reference here.
John Damron
Posted at 23:51h, 14 NovemberI entered the Army Reserves in 60′ and served 6 months training and then returned home and did the monthly meetings, annual two week camp training and another 2-3 yrs. inactive reserve. I have a DD214 an an honorable discharge paper, am I considered a veteran?
Robert Horton
Posted at 23:52h, 12 JanuaryAccording to this no we don’t. I’ve tried and they tell me i’m not a veteran despite being a reservist and getting an honorable discharge.
W. Bentley
Posted at 23:04h, 07 FebruaryBeing a “veteran” and being eligible for various veterans benefits are not the same thing, at all. Every veteran benefit has a different set of prerequisites. You may find you are eligible for all of them, in spite of not being a “veteran” under federal law…in which case, well, you can probably just call yourself a veteran because who would care? Good luck,
Teresa
Posted at 17:24h, 11 NovemberI think the term veteran applies to anybody who had the guts to sign their name at 17 18 or 19 years old I know some of you were probably older to a piece of paper that was giving their lives over and there will over to someone or an organization that was going to break them down and a little pieces until they thought they were nothing and then build them back up the way they wanted them to be. They were going to break them down until nothing was left of them that used to be. I think the term veteran applies to anybody who had the guts to turn their lives over to someone who was going to take over their lives and treat them like crap forever how long no respect 4 weeks show them no honor 4 weeks and then finally one day tell them hey you made it. But I especially think those who didn’t make it all the way through basic training or all the way through the 20-25 years or longer especially deserve the term veteran whether they were active or not they were in the military they were ready to fight they gave up more than anybody else in this country and to slot them because some person wrote a law that was worded stupidly is ass backwards so to me if you signed your name on that paper and you stepped one day in boot camp you are a veteran hold your head high don’t ask anymore if you are a veteran when they ask people to stand if they are a veteran don’t think twice about it because you are and you always will be
Raymond L McGaha
Posted at 23:54h, 07 NovemberI was in the service back in 1983 hurt my foot in basic training got discharged honorable can I b considered a vertran
W. Bentley
Posted at 23:06h, 07 FebruaryI understand that such an individual, who should have received a disability discharge, would be considered a veteran for having a service-connected disability. However, the rules have changed over the years for entry-level training and how the VA views it. There is only one authoritative Agency to answer this question: submit a request to the VA requesting VA health care. Then submit a second request to the VA requesting service-connected disability compensation. Include all relevant DD-214’s, other separation documents, and the medical records from that time, and from more recently showing a continuation of the injury. The VA will make a formal decision about both requests, which are actually different things, and you will have the chance to appeal either or both decisions. Feel free to talk to your County Veteran Service Officer, every county in the US has at least one, often located with the VA office. Good luck,
Glenn French
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Glenn French
Posted at 22:36h, 06 NovemberI am a victim of Military Sexual Trauma and did not serve 180 days The military uses this to cover up the abuse and deny people who served honorably the benifits and recognition they deserve. You can read more by checking out my web site.
W. Bentley
Posted at 23:10h, 07 FebruaryI understand that such an individual, who should have received a disability discharge, would be considered a veteran for having a service-connected disability. However, the rules have changed over the years and how the VA views it. There is only one authoritative Agency to answer this question: submit a request to the VA requesting VA health care. Then submit a second request to the VA requesting service-connected disability compensation. Include all relevant DD-214’s, other separation documents, and the medical records from that time, and from more recently showing a continuation of the injury. The VA will make a formal decision about both requests, which are actually different things, and you will have the chance to appeal either or both decisions. Feel free to talk to your County Veteran Service Officer, every county in the US has at least one, often located with the VA office. Being a “veteran,” and being eligible for various veteran’s benefits, are not the same thing at all, since every veteran benefit has a different set of prerequisites. The climate is much better today for a review of your service records and discharge; review your Service’s Board for Correction of Military/Air Force/Naval/etc. Records, you may find that much can be changed for the better today. Good luck,
Fred
Posted at 17:09h, 23 OctoberI spent 4 years in the marine reserves 14 days boot camp and weekly military drills got a honorable discharge (1956 – 1960) am i abet? Trying to buy a home can I qualify for a VA loan?
Robert Horton
Posted at 23:51h, 12 JanuaryAccording to this no we don’t. I’ve tried and they tell me i’m not a veteran despite being a reservist and getting an honorable discharge.
W. Bentley
Posted at 23:15h, 07 FebruaryThe VA home loan guaranty program for reserves requires you to either have retired from the reserves, be currently serving in the selected reserves, or have served at least 6 years (which has been the standard obligation for 30 or so years). I understand you completed the obligated service required of your contract. Especially if you incurred a service-connected disability (as rated by the VA or the Service) during your military service, or have aggravated a service-connected injury since then, you should make a formal application to the VA for the home loan guaranty. Only they can tell you no, and they have an appeals process. Tell them you met the obligated service required of your contract, include copy of the contract, with discharge papers, and your SC disability paperwork (if any). People on these websites cannot tell you yes or no with precision; only the Govt Agency can do that, and you then have due process with appeals, etc. Talk it over with your County VSO, but even if they say no, submit anyway. You will never know for sure until you have the final decision from the VA. Some States, like CA, have their own veterans home loan programs. The California version is almost as good as the VA, but subtly different, too. Good luck,
Postelle
Posted at 22:10h, 21 SeptemberThe definition should include members of uniformed service like USPHS and NOAA.
W. Bentley
Posted at 23:18h, 07 FebruaryIt does, in the law. Since at least WWII, members of both uniformed services who otherwise meet the same requirements as members of the armed forces have been considered veterans, and largely eligible for most of the same benefits. Only by applying to the VA can a retired or former uniformed services member know for sure whether they are eligible for a veterans benefit, because most such benefits do not require “veteran” status to be eligible; they each have their prerequisites. Good luck,
Malcolm
Posted at 15:53h, 21 SeptemberMy dad served a year in army just before Korea (8/18/48 to 8/18/49). He was then discharged into the Enlisted Reserve Corps for 6 year commitment. He then went to college and joined ROTC. He was later called up for Korea on 8/18/50, but he wrote and said he was in ROTC and asked if he was exempt. I don’t know how that was adjudicated, but I do know he stayed in ROTC and did not go back to active somewhere else. (Maybe he’s AWOL!).
I suspect he does not qualify for active wartime benefits. But I am curious how to find out what his status was.
W. Bentley
Posted at 23:26h, 07 FebruaryGoogle National Archives, DD-214.
Find the section about requesting public copies of service records.
Fill out the required form, and specifically cite the “Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).” The FOIA requires the release of as much info as you ask for, that can be done without violating some other law (like the Privacy Act). You might be amazed how much info is publicly releasable about any servicemember.
You will know his type of discharge, where he served, duty stations, awards, training, combat, other things, but not medical information.
By having served more than 180 days of active duty (other than training duty) in his enlisted year in the Army, he probably is entitled to all benefits of veterans status. His service in ROTC is highly unlikely to qualify him for anything, and unless he was actually called up (even for a day!) while in the Enlisted Reserve Corps, that service is unlikely to qualify him, either.
For any benefit, he should apply to the VA. Only the VA can make a final decision on a request for benefits, like VA health care, VA disability compensation for a service-connected injury or illness (even one 70 years later!), VA home loan guaranty, etc. Feel free to consult with your County’s Veteran Service Officer, every county in the US has one.
Jake
Posted at 13:45h, 20 SeptemberYou need to do like me and contact your Congressman both House and Senate. The following is what I sent to them. Feel free to use it. If we ALL pursue this then we can get it done. I also sent this to the American Legion Legislative division to put them on notice………
I would like for you to introduce legislation that would allow for all honorably discharged members of the National Guard and Reserve components to be recognized as veterans. These members should be honored as a veteran but not entitled to any benefit by reason of this honor. All former members of the National Guard and Reserve components who received an Honorable Discharge as a testimonial of honest and faithful service has a right to the title of veteran. The passage of such legislation would eliminate a long overdue injustice that defines the military service of many Americans.
The legislation would not affect any benefits administered by the VA and would have zero cost to the American taxpayers. There is no reason this wouldn’t receive bipartisan support in Congress and the signature of the President. There are currently many countries throughout the world that already bestow this recognition on former members of their militaries. Most of these countries are long standing allies of the United States.
I would ask that you seriously explore this issue with the realization that it is currently an affront to honorably discharged members of the National Guard and Reserve.
MARIE
Posted at 06:25h, 04 FebruaryIf you sign that paper and give your life to your country you SHOULD BE CALLED A VETERAN. I understand not all veterans will receive all benefits because of timing or length of stay. Taking away what they are in name really rattles me.
Spencer Jackson
Posted at 15:05h, 19 SeptemberI have an honest and sincere question that’s been bugging me for the better part of 25 years. I attended the US Naval Academy in the early 90s. At the start of my plebe (freshman) academic year, I had a seizure, and it was later discovered that I had a brain tumor. I was able to complete my plebe year, and later received the brain surgery I needed, but I was given a medical discharge at the end of the school year.
My question is this: am I considered a veteran? (Personally, that’s been a very difficult question for me to answer simply because I would never put my “service” at the same level as any of my shipmates who served on active duty for many many years.) But I would love to hear anyone’s input. Thank you
W. Bentley
Posted at 23:48h, 07 FebruaryGoogle National Archives, DD-214.
Find the section about requesting public copies of service records.
Fill out the required form, and specifically cite the “Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).” The FOIA requires the release of as much info as you ask for, that can be done without violating some other law (like the Privacy Act). You might be amazed how much info is publicly releasable about any servicemember. As you are asking about yourself, you’ll be able to get everything there is.
You will know your type of discharge, other things, including medical information.
Having been given a medical discharge, back then you probably were not offered disability retirement; in about 2003 that changed, and someone like you might have been medically retired, as a cadet. Maybe. I understand that service at the Academy counts as true active duty, not “active duty for training,” and since you served longer than 180 days, you should be accounted as a veteran, all the more since your service was cut short by a service-connected condition for which you were medically discharged. Medical discharges/retirements are another way to qualify as a ‘veteran’ even with less than 180 days
For a final decision on any VA benefits (or state veterans benefits), you need to make the request for each benefit and let the Agency tell you yes or no, and provide appeals rights. You MIGHT be eligible for VA disability compensation, VA home loan guaranty, VA health care, State benefits, etc. You won’t know until you ask. Good luck,
Stephen McLendon
Posted at 14:03h, 18 SeptemberI noticed there was not any information about someone who joined any ROTC programs and asked if they would be considered a veteran. I am one of those. I recently talked to a military person at Fort Rosecrans National Military Cemetery, San Diego County, CA. They told me to look into a revision to the term Veteran, either for benefits or in name. I joined the Army ROTC Advanced 2-year program at my college, Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo, CA in August 1969 and was honorably discharged August 25,1970. I had a knee problem when I signed and was told I could join and that if there was a problem with it, I should go to the infirmary to get it examined. My left knee went out the first night of the third week of the second half of Basic Training(August 1970). 1st half of BasicTraining-Ft Benning, GA. 2nd half of Basic Training, Ft Lewis, WA. Based on all that I have read on this site, I am still a little confused. Like many here, I feel that I served and could be called a Veteran. My knee was aggrevated severly enough by what I had to do AFTER the initial injury. We were on the first night of Bivouc. At approximately 9pm, my evaluator made me squad leader and gave me a compass which he illuminated with his flashlight. Off we went, the nine of us, one hand on the others belt. We were looking for a Viet-cong mortar position. I found it, yelled ‘fire’ and proceeded to climb over a fallen tree toward the ‘enemy’. I lifted my left leg over first and my knee went out. Limping back to base, I told my evaluator what happened. He suggested to ‘air evac’ me with a helicopter through 160′ trees at midnight. I told him ‘No Thank You, I’ll stay with my guys. The next day the evaluator asked how I was, I said OK, but a little sore. Alright, you are going to carry the .30 Cal machine gun to the next practice area, only a mile away to learn how to climb in and jump out of a ‘huey’. By then my knee was hurting quit a bit. I didn’t realize what I was about to do next. I climbed in, but it took an extra person to help me up. I was told to exit by jumping out and running about 25′ and fall to the ground. I had the .30 cal still and had to use both knees to land on the ground. That’s when my knee said, ‘NO MORE. The evaluator sent me to the infirmary to get checked out. I developed ‘water-on-the-knee’ and because the condition originally was before entering the program, the Army sent me home two days later. About a month after that, I received my 8 1/2 x11 Honorable Discharge Paper. Can I use the name Veteran for benefits and if not ,still be called a Veteran. I recently had a total left-knee replacement surgery done, so the pain is still with me and having some kind of VA help would be nice. I am 71 now. Thank you to all Veterans who have and are still protecting our great country.
W. Bentley
Posted at 23:58h, 07 FebruaryGoogle National Archives, DD-214.
Find the section about requesting public copies of service records.
Fill out the required form, and specifically cite the “Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and Privacy Act.” The FOIA requires the release of as much info as you ask for, that can be done without violating some other law (like the Privacy Act). You might be amazed how much info is publicly releasable about any servicemember. As you are asking about yourself, you’ll be able to get everything there is.
You will know your type of discharge, other things, including medical information.
It doesn’t sound like you were given a medical evaluation board process, nor a medical discharge, although perhaps you should have been…hard to say now. Time passes and rules change.
Those who were medically discharged for a service-connected injury might very well be considered ‘veterans.’ If not, your discharge was probably a run of the mill “entry level separation” rather than a disability evaluation system medical discharge.
I would say “no” as a veteran with less than 180 days of non-training active duty, and no medical discharge, but “yes” if your type of discharge says anything about being a medical discharge.
Medical discharges/retirements are another way to qualify as a ‘veteran’ even with less than 180 days
For a final decision on any VA benefits (or state veterans benefits), you need to make the request for each benefit and let the Agency tell you yes or no, and provide appeals rights. You MIGHT be eligible for VA disability compensation, VA home loan guaranty, VA health care, State benefits, etc. You won’t know until you ask. I suggest you apply for every benefit you think you might qualify for. You never know until you apply. And appeal if they say no the first time.
Visit your county Veteran Service Officer, as every County in the US has a VSO. They will be able to help you, but even THEY cannot give you a final answer…only the VA (or a state-specific agency for a state veterans benefit) can do that. Good luck,
W. Bentley
Posted at 00:01h, 08 FebruaryRemember, being a “veteran” under the law is NOT the same as being eligible for any specific veterans benefit, because every benefit has a different prerequisite, and most of them have nothing to do with being a ‘veteran’ under the law. Apply for every benefit you need, individually, to preserve your rights. And remember, regardless, you still served, as even ROTC is enlisted service in the reserve components…Good luck,
Kelly
Posted at 22:59h, 08 JulyThought you had to be in a war in ord w r to recieve Veterans status?
Amanda Bruce
Posted at 15:25h, 04 JulyMy Daddy was a Marine during the Vietnam war but he didn’t go there he served here. While he was in the service he was accidentally shot by another Marine in the back while he was asleep. Shouldn’t he have received some kind of benefits?
Will Bentley
Posted at 00:21h, 08 FebruaryGoogle the National Archives, find the section about requesting service records.
Help your dad fill out the form to request his entire service and medical records, including SPECIFICALLY request any records of hospitalization at XXX hospital (whatever base or civilian hospital).
If there are errors or omissions, use the process provided to attempt to correct them.
Submit to the VA directly for VA healthcare, and VA disability compensation, and any other benefit he might be eligible for, as ONLY the VA can give you a final decision on eligibility, and also provides a means to appeal their decisions.
Feel free to see your county’s Veterans Service Officer, as every county in the US has a VSO, but their advice is NOT final decisions…they can only guide.
It sounds to me, if the story is straight, that he should probably have been reviewed by a medical evaulation board and possibly discharged or retired for disability, and certainly there should be records of this in his medical and service files. Even now, at this time, an error in the service records can be challenged through the Board for Correction of Naval Records (BCNR). Google their website, and submit the form with as much info as you have, if you think he should have been medically discharged or retired rather than a “standard’ discharge as a result of his injuries at the time.
Good luck,
Nancy Fitzgerald
Posted at 22:17h, 28 JuneI am a widow if a former Air Force staff Sgt. He served 9 years and was honorably discharged. He died soon after and me and our 3 children drew SS benefits . I remarried and will soon be divorced can I draw my first husband’s SS retirement and I think I can receive a VA home loan in my name only as long as I’m single. And last is there any other benefits due to me as a widow I have and his children lived in below poverty levels most of our lives after David died it’s a shame the family of a veteran us so ignored and just forgotten that tell us how our government cares. Please correct me if I’m wring
Will Bentley
Posted at 00:23h, 08 FebruaryMake an appointment with your county’s Veteran Service Officer. Every county in the US has a VSO. Ask them these questions, because they might know of certain benefits available, especially for children. Also, each state has its own benefits, such as education for children of disabled or deceased veterans; it pays to ask. The VSO probably knows about those benefits, too. Good luck,
Archie
Posted at 01:43h, 27 JuneI served in the Marine Corps from Jan 86 to Dec 86. Got out on honorable discharge. Served 186 consecutive days of service. Please someone help,am I a veteran? Not looking to steal anyones valor. I just need to know if I am considered a veteran. Thank you
Max Moskal
Posted at 21:06h, 21 JuneI received an ROTC commission in 1958, and served active duty at Fort Belvoir, VA for 6 months during 1959. Thereafter, I completed 7-1/2 years of reserve duty, summer camp, etc. I have a Form 256A showing honorable discharge (Oct 1968). I believe I am not eligible for VA benefits, however, is there other military documentation available to me to show as a veteran?
Thanks!
KAREN R BROWN
Posted at 03:28h, 16 JuneIn 1968 a very good friend of mine was in the army reserves. He was called 3 times for deployment to Vietnam but the orders were cancelled at the last minute
Is he considered a veteran?
Jamal Brooks
Posted at 23:41h, 13 JuneMy dad served 2 years in the military and was honorable discharged. Is he considered a veteran?
Scooter
Posted at 22:57h, 06 JuneI have 12 years in Reserve and Guard, 10 months of active duty for training, jump school, Air Assault school, Senior Army Aircrew wings, PLDC, BNCOC, ARCOM, AAM, NDSM, 2 MOSs, >10 years on flight status, >1000 flying hours, >1100 retirement points, and a VA home loan.
And some weenie says I’m not a veteran? Something is broken.
Glauco
Posted at 21:15h, 26 MayAside from Basic Training and AIT, I served in uniform for 4 years full-time and 2 years part-time (1994-2000) at The Joint Language Training Center (JLTC) out of Camp Davis, Utah .The program is directed by the Utah National Guard and it provides language support to several government agencies. I was sent on a couple of missions and received pay according to my military rank. I also served for 1 year as a civilian after I left the Guard. However, when I became interested in the Veteran burial benefits and contacted JLTC, they said they only have records of the time I served as a civilian. I would like to know what can be done for me to prove that I have served in the military and claim my benefits.
Mike Stevens
Posted at 12:39h, 11 MayAre members of the Ohio miltary Reserve (OHMR) considered to be Veteran’s? There is guy where I work that thinks he is a vet just because he belongs to this organization
Robin
Posted at 07:31h, 20 AprilEdit..I should have stated that he was Nat., Guard.
My son attended Army boot camp and was injured. He became depressed because he could not participate and was not going to finish. Rather than discharge him, they kept him exactly 180 days. This lead me (his mother), to believe this was so he could get medical/mental help in the future. Does basic training count?
Retired SSG
Posted at 05:24h, 23 MayBasic training does not count. Everyone is a civilian at basic training until they get the required training. If someone gets hurt during those weeks, the military will try to recycle them (2nd chance). If that person can not perform to military standards, they are sent home. They only become a Soldier when they completed all required training, which would be the day before graduation. After graduating basic training, they are Soldiers. Not Veterans because they have not fulfilled their obligation contract. After their obligation contract is completed and received their proper discharge paperwork they “COULD” be called a Veteran depending on what type of discharge.
Robin
Posted at 07:16h, 20 AprilMy son attended Army boot camp and was injured. He became depressed because he could not participate and was not going to finish. Rather than discharge him, they kept him exactly 180 days. This lead me (his mother), to believe this was so he could get medical/mental help in the future. Does basic training count?
MARIE
Posted at 06:26h, 04 FebruaryI believe before 1980 that was true.
Angela Waterford
Posted at 05:40h, 18 AprilI want to know more about the lives of the veterans since they are persons who have served our country. Thanks for clarifying that full-time veterans are credible toward the length of service requirements so I might read up on veterans affairs news that is related to them today. I think I would be able to read some interesting stories about them and what is happening to them since there are part-time veterans who are still alive today.
William Fite
Posted at 13:27h, 07 AprilI was in a Missouri National Guard Unit for 13 years we were an SRF Unit.We had Federal Clearances.Am I considered a veteran
Linda Walter(Hinson-Morgan)
Posted at 21:59h, 01 AprilI thought I was considered a veteran because I served in the Ohio Army National Guard for three years. I completed all the required training plus additional training. I completed all the required weekend IDT’s during that tine. I did not serve 180 days of active duty. Does this mean that I am nit a veteran. I am nit talking about for purpises if benefits. I just want to know if I should quit referring to myself az a veteran. I was honably discharged as a staff sergeant.
Jose Placido
Posted at 00:49h, 15 MarchI served in the Marine Corps Active Ready Reserves for 4 years after my basic and infantry training. I received a DD-214 after my infantry training but never got one after getting discharged from the active reserves. I did sustain injury while in training which is documented in my medical records. I was told I’m not considered a veteran which I think is a slap in the face. Can I file a medical claim for those physical and mental injuries sustained that has affected me permanently? If I do qualify for my medical claim and got rated, am I considered a ‘Veteran’ then?
Retired SSG
Posted at 05:43h, 23 MayContact your local county VA representative to help clarify this up for you. Way to many question popped into my head when I read your comment. Make sure to take every document that you have on file to your meeting.
Heather Harglerode
Posted at 09:31h, 01 MarchI enlisted into the Army basic training in 1997. I was told during recruitment that after my basic training that being a single parent my child could come live with me, at basic training I found out I was lied to by the recruiter to get enlisted so I asked to leave as I didn’t want to be away from my child the next 4 years. I received a general discharge and paperwork stated I could re join if I wished but never did. Now I’m trying to purchase a home and wonder if I have any legal rights to apply for a VA loan or no?
Retired SSG
Posted at 05:45h, 23 MayYour bank will be able to help you justify if you qualify for a VA loan.
James B. Elmore
Posted at 02:59h, 03 FebruaryOne correction: The Coast Guard does NOT serve under DoD except in wartime with some exceptions. The article states: “Active-duty members fall under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Department of Defense and can serve in the Army, Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard.” Active duty CG falls under the authority of Homeland Security in peacetime. Otherwise, I saw nothing else in the article that I would quibble with..
Tim
Posted at 07:20h, 11 NovemberSeeing all this is sad. We have all served our country “Honorably”. I served in the Nebraska Army Guard from 1989-1995, IRR 1995-1997. I have 3 Honorable discharges(if you count the IRR), DD214, NGB22. NEVER activated: state or federal. My DD214 says my total time was 6 months 5 days or 185 days, don’t know if that counts because according to the VA, that is training even though I was active duty.
I’m starting to doubt calling myself a veteran, after reading the va.gov site and this site(this site gives me a little hope). Weren’t we all active duty 24/7, Active/Reserve/Guard, all depended who got the phone call.
C
Posted at 19:45h, 09 NovemberI was unable to fulfill my commitment to the air force due to injury. I have never considered myself a veteran but in the eyes of the VA am I? I was discharged under a medical discharge.
dave
Posted at 22:11h, 07 NovemberMy father in law served in the ROTC part time for two years. His is NOT considered a veteran, correct? He doesn’t say he is a veteran, I was just wondering.
Retired SSG
Posted at 05:50h, 23 MayCorrect, he is not a Veteran
John madden
Posted at 23:25h, 06 NovemberRead the responses in this article and I still read no definition for qualifying for veteran status as a reservist. One person claims over 180 days active duty is needed, another says 90 days, and others say active duty and honorable discharge papers or dd-214 make you a veteran. It seems it shouldn’t be this complicated especially if one who volunteered and served his country. So let’s hear from a knowledgeable VA administrator and get this defined.
Retired SSG
Posted at 05:59h, 23 MayReceiving a DD214 of “Other Than Honorable” of “Honorable” after your obligation contract is considered to be a Veteran after Obama passed that bill in 2015. Before that time, a Soldier had to have over 180 days of continuous active day time stated on their DD214 to be considered a “Veteran”. NOW, if someone received only a DD214 “General Discharge” from basic training. That is not considered as a “Veteran” status even under Obama bill because that person never actually completed required training. They are still considered as civilians until the day of graduation when they actually are Soldiers.
John
Posted at 11:31h, 29 OctoberI was in the army in Germany in 1979-80-81. I will keep this very succinct. Two army people, claiming contacts with terrorist cells in Europe, threatened me for six months. The threats were lengthy, explicit and detailed. They threatened and warned witnesses who heard parts of the threats. In short, two terrorist events had been “arranged and guaranteed.” One would be covert meaning I would never be able to prove it was done deliberately. The other would be an obvious act of terrorism.They gave me a name, phonetically Eireann, of one group no fewer than 50 times. 50 and more is not an exaggeration. I told my roommate, Jimmy Rowe, they would derail my train in Ireland, but to be told I was paranoid. I left travel orders. I stated my main destinations would be Ireland and Italy. I went on official leave.The two events did happen. The first was in Ireland August 1, 1980. The second was in Bologna, Italy August 2, 1980. Both slaughters happened in train stations. I did get caught up in the first one. Eighteen people were killed. Seventy were injured. Bodies were cut in half. Others were dismembered. The army awarded me the commendation medal for action in the disaster. They claimed it was an accident caused by negligence. Fact is, they had set a derailing device on the track. The one in Bologna was a bomb. It killed eighty-six people and injured two hundred. The name of the company responsible for the derailment in Ireland was Coras Iompair Eireann. I tried to have the two terrorists, Sergeant John P. Vogel and Specialist Stavrinakis, questioned and polygraphed, but the army was uncooperative. Afterwards, I stopped following orders, ended up getting arrested for noncompliance, and discharged. I receive no military benefits. I am sure the terrorists do. The ARCOM is not registered on my DD214. What are my rights under such circumstances? This is a short summary. I have written a 60,000 word manuscript containing more detailed information on all this.
Jim
Posted at 13:16h, 03 OctoberThe “for training purposes” is the phrase I think disqualifies me for benefits, but would like verification as others have said I should qualify. Since I was a National Guardsman, I realize the weekends and 15 days a year do not count. My question is does Basic training and Advanced Infantry training time count? In addition when I entered college, I enrolled in ROTC. I had one 6 week camp during that and after receiving my commission and went through Infantry Officers school. I received Honorable Discharges as both an enlisted man and as an officer. The total time for Basic Training, AIT and Infantry Officers School alone should total over 180 days, but I am wondering whether this actually counts toward eligibility for veterans benefits or do not count because they were for training purposes. Thank you
Retired SSG
Posted at 06:04h, 23 MayThe 180 days has to be continuous active duty days. Adding up all your active duty days up to 180 days is incorrect. Not eligible for benefits.
Adam
Posted at 01:14h, 27 SeptemberHi all,
I was in the Air Force ROTC program from 2003-2005 and was released with an Honorable Discharge. Am I llegally considered a Veteran? I don’t personally consider myself one, but would like to know for status when applying to jobs, etc. Thank you!
Ernest
Posted at 16:14h, 07 SeptemberGreetings,
I am trying to update our hiring forms and one of them is an affirmative action voluntary self-identification information form. In it, we ask for Texas Veteran’s Information and the options are
Veteran: I am a veteran and have served in the military and was honorably discharged or I am a veteran who is classified as disabled by the United States Department of Veterans Affairs or its successor or the branch of the service in which I served and my disability is service-connected.
Surviving Spouse of a Veteran: I am a veteran’s surviving spouse who has not remarried.
Orphan of a Veteran: I am an orphan of a veteran that was killed while on active duty.
I wanted to see if you could provide me with an updated list/link to verify these are up to date. Your help is greatly appreciated.
Brenda
Posted at 19:13h, 16 AugustI am curious, My husband died , he was inactive National Guard with a honorable discharge My question is, why did he deserve a military funeral & NOT a grave marker? Just curious.
Jennifer Davis
Posted at 20:07h, 12 AugustMy cousin enlist in the army and did not complete his 180 days. We was discharged other than dishonorable For mental reason aggravated by conditions. He has passed away and the family needs burial assistance….. is this something the military may provide??
veterans day quotes
Posted at 18:41h, 22 Julyfollow this link
Guadlupe H. Briseno
Posted at 21:06h, 17 JulyQuestion: I served in the Texas Air National Guard from April 1963 to December 1970. I served as a full time Air Technician for over 3 years. I wore my Air Force uniform to duty everyday, upon being released from the unit I received a DD214 with an Honorable Discharge and a DD217 indicating the number of days I served a full time member of the unit. I wonder if I am eligible for a Military Honors funeral. I purchased a burial plot next to my daughter and wish to be interred there. Simple question; because I served fulltime, wore my military uniform everyday, and received a DD214 and DD217, am I entitled to at a Military Honors funeral? Thanks for any help you can afford me regarding my situation.
Moderator
Posted at 17:34h, 18 JulyFollow this link (https://va.org/veterans-affairs-funeral-memorial-and-burial-benefits/). Hopefully you will find your answer there. Thank you for your service.
Richard Chappell
Posted at 06:16h, 05 JulyAre those that attended one of the Service Academies (ie West Point) (less that=n 2 years) and did not serve in the military, considered veterans?
Larry Schmidt
Posted at 15:47h, 19 JuneGreat website.
I believe I see an error in the fourth para of section “National Guard” (excerpt below). The state duty referred to is actually State Active Duty (SAD) and is authorized under Title 32 of the United States Code, rather than Title 38.
“State governors can call National Guard members to active duty if a state emergency arises. Such emergencies include relief or protection of property and people outside the authority of local law enforcement. This form of state duty is known officially as “Title 38 Call-up” and doesn’t count toward veteran’s benefits either.”
Kevin Payne
Posted at 16:29h, 13 JuneWould you be considered a Veteran if completed Tech School in the Air Force then discharged with General Under Honorable Conditions?
Retired SSG
Posted at 06:08h, 23 Mayno
Eddie Roberts
Posted at 21:16h, 08 JuneAre persons that were honorably discharged from the Army National Guard eligible for any benefits?
Retired SSG
Posted at 06:09h, 23 Mayyes
Laurence Kevin OConnor
Posted at 14:23h, 25 MayI was in the AFRE from 1967 to 1971. TAG and MAC. I developed problems with migraine headaches and received an Honorable Discharge and DD214. I was offered a small disability but declined it.
I have been told I qualify as a veteran and as per the 2008 changes can salute the flag even being in civilian clothes.
Is this correct?
Thank you.
Retired SSG
Posted at 06:11h, 23 MayYes, this is correct. All Servicemembers can salute the flag even in civilian clothes.
Leslie
Posted at 03:36h, 17 MayI was in the Army for 5 1/2 months, but could not pass my run. Do I qualify for veteran status?
Retired SSG
Posted at 06:14h, 23 MayWhat does your DD214 stay? What type of discharge? Did you graduate basic training? Do you have 180 continuous active duty days stated on your DD214?
Laurence Kevin O'Connor
Posted at 15:32h, 16 MayI’d like to know if I qualify as a. Veteran . I spent 4 years in the USAF Reserve ( 1967 to 1971) and was discharged for migraine headaches. I believe I was offered a 4% disability but I declined it. I was 2 years with a TAG at Willow Grove Naval Air Station and 2 years at Maguire AFB working the flight line. After having some issues with the headaches I received an Honorable Discharge and the requisite paper work including the Honorable Discharge.
As I approach 71 this becomes more and more important to me. Can I claim Veteran Status and get a grave marker?
Thank you.
Retired SSG
Posted at 06:17h, 23 MayYou need to contact your local county VA representative. They will be able to assist you better than anyone on this topic. They will also help you get everything in order, so your family doesn’t have to worry about arrangements as well.
MICHAEL P RICKMAN
Posted at 07:42h, 07 MayI enlisted in the DEP 15 December 1979, and reported for active duty 14 October 1980, I served from 14 October 1980 until 05 October 1982.
I was on WesPac deployment when US President Ronald Reagan came aboard in 1981. My photo is in the 1981-’82 USS Constellation Cruisebook. When I signed the papers, the requirements for veteran status was 180 days consecutive active duty. Now the VA, headed by some Navy veteran who never served a day on a ship tells me that I need 24 months consecutive service. Are they truly going to be this anal over 8 days?
Jesse Hanner
Posted at 17:13h, 31 DecemberIf you slept in a berthing compartment with 90 + other guys, stood in chow line for over an hour, I feel you qualify as a veteran. Of course you worked at least 18 out of 24 hours a day. Spent weeks or months away from family, friends, and loved ones. yeah Rickmin you signed a blank check,, oh, you’re a Veteran! What what was your rate and thanks for your service?! Jesse Hanner MM2 USS Ranger CVA 61
Robert Ward
Posted at 21:17h, 24 AprilRegarding this definition from Megan:
“Megan January 23, 2017 at 8:41 pm – Reply
Here is the definition of a US Veteran:
Under federal law, a veteran is any person who served honorably on active duty in the armed forces of the United States. Discharges marked “general and under honorable conditions” also qualify.”
Megan’s response seems to suggest that one can be a Veteran without qualifying for VA benefits, but there appears to be some confusion on this point. Is there a controversy in the Pentagon concerning this issue? Is there resistance from career active duty personnel? Other definitions provided above are precise with respect to benefits but vague regarding status otherwise. Criteria seem to include 1. Active Duty status; 2.time of active service -(is 6 months a requirement just for benefits? Megan’s definition above does not require any active duty time span; and 3.whether one has an Honorable Discharge designation on certain official documents. Perhaps others. This matter could likely be cleared up if Congress simply defined a Veteran as anyone who served honorably in any capacity under any US military status. It may be that Congress has not passed such a statute because of concern over additional claims to VA and, perhaps, some resistance from active duty personnel.
I am like many other reservists, served in Coast Guard then Naval Reserve for six years. All service was non-active duty reserve, ( but two week duty may have been active?) yet I was Honorably Discharged. Not concerned about benefits, just protocol. When attending a Navy Ship Commissioning or other official ceremony, and the Master of Ceremonies asks all Veterans to stand, should non-active duty reservists stand? Many have asked variants of this question. Could Veterans Anonymous experts provide a definitive answer? Either, “yes” you can stand as a Veteran or “no” you can not. Thanks for the efforts by Veterans Anonymous. I thought I was one of the few who had this concern but apparently many are not sure on this point.
Thomas Martell
Posted at 22:38h, 14 AprilNational Guardsmen and Reservists that were honorably discharged are considered veterans by the Government in the most basic sense.. However, they are not entitled to any type of benefits unless they meet the criteria in the above article.
Ronnie Barton
Posted at 19:52h, 07 AprilI was in the Army from Dec.12 1975 to March 22 1976. I was Honorably Discharged.Could anyone tell me if i qualify for VA Benefits? I cannot get a straight answer from anyone.I would appreciate any feedback! Thank You For your Service!! Ron Barton
Matt Terry
Posted at 18:12h, 23 AprilRon,
Walk into your nearest VA Medical Center and go to the Benefits Application location. They will be able to determine your eligibility.
-Matt
Ashley
Posted at 23:17h, 26 MarchQuestion for any that may point us in right direction. My grandfather served in the marines between 1956 to 1959 he never saw any combat. He served is time and was discharged. At his current age his health is poor and we have had some tell us to look to the VA to possibly help? Question is without him being in service during active war will they help him?
Matt Terry
Posted at 18:25h, 23 AprilAshley,
Walk into your nearest VA Medical Center and go to the Benefits Application location. They will be able to determine his eligibility.
-Matt
Kym
Posted at 03:54h, 23 MarchSorry, but I’ve read over and over the definitions of protected veteran and still don’t understand if I qualify.
I served 24 continuous months active duty, from 1984- 1986, and received an honorable discharge upon my scheduled ETS date. My DD214 states I received the Army Service Ribbon.
The US was not engaged in warfare during the time of my service, I am not disabled nor recently separated.
Since the Armed Forces Service Medal was instituted with a retroactive start date of 1 June 1992, I am excluded.
We did go TDY for four months on what I recall was a police action, but cannot remember how it was officially classified. I’d think my DD214 would have it all.
So, am I not a protected veteran even though I served honorably? I understand that those who did serve during war time or participated in a campaign should have a special status, but when I fill out a job application and I’m asked about protected/non-protected status, I want them to know I served honorably. Thank you!
Matt Terry
Posted at 18:29h, 23 April“Any other veteran who served on active duty in the U.S. military ground, naval, or air
service during a war or in a campaign or expedition for which a campaign badge has
been authorized, other than a special disabled veteran, veteran of the Vietnam era, or
recently separated veteran.” Department of Labor
Hope this helps clarify.
-Matt
paul
Posted at 03:47h, 21 MarchI served 4 years of active duty in the AF. I have a DD214 with honorable discharge. I’ve used many GI benefits including the GI Bill, VA home loan program and initially always was able to x the box of being a Veteran. Recently, I changed jobs, and in completing the questionnaires for being a Veteran, the choice given do not include the time of my service – and there are no other options available for being a Veteran in a non-conflict era. I delayed enlisted approx 15 days after the Viet Nam period and discharged in 1979.
I am miffed each time the questions arise on applications and do not provide recognition for non conflict related time periods. However, I received another graduate degree 2 years ago, and was again recognized as a Vet from the University.
Recently, I attended a conference, and the speaker was not Military, but only used the war time periods to define what a Veteran is. Can anyone help me understand when and why the changes were made toward war time periods only?
Matt Terry
Posted at 18:42h, 23 AprilPaul,
You are a Veteran in our eyes. Different organizations and companies have different factors they require for services they provide. We would recommend contacting the company’s Human Resources with your comment about including all Veterans in their questionnaire, but note they may be searching for tax information when hiring certain individuals.
-Matt
Confused
Posted at 22:02h, 21 FebruaryMy dad went to Marines boot camp in 1958, was in Marines Platoon Leaders Class, which seems like NROTC…?
Got sick after about 6 weeks, went to VA Hospital for 4 weeks with mono, got sent home.
Was supposed to report for 6 more weeks in 1961, instead resigned and became private in USMC reserves.
In 1963 went for 6-8 weeks combat training.
That’s it.
No other reserve time, no other service.
Is he a Marine? Is he a veteran?
Matt Terry
Posted at 19:22h, 23 AprilOnce a Marine, always a Marine. I personally call him a fellow Veteran. Hope that helps!
-Matt
Cal
Posted at 18:20h, 05 FebruaryEligibility for being buried in a VA National Cemetery can bring a rude awakening to veterans who served in the National Guard. Last year I stopped at the Seville, Ohio cemetery. After saying I was retired from the National Guard the instant response was I wasn’t eligible. I realized that my four years AD and 20 plus years pension eligibility made me eligible. You may have to ask more than one person to get the correct answer to your questions.
I went to the local VA and as soon as I said “National Guard” I was told I wasn’t eligible for VA benefits. The easy answer for me has been the 4 years AD.
Going to the VA or American Legion may not give you the right answer to your questions on benefits.
You may have to be persistent.
Lt. X
Posted at 06:38h, 04 JulyYes persistent!! I have similar experience although two years AD six years NG service connected disability. For nearly three years, I hashed it out with the VA “alone”, because it took a good amount of time for me to learn about the help I could’ve received, with filing of my initial claim for VA benefits. That was because I did not “ask the right people the right questions”. During that period of time, I too very quickly got the “look” of denial each time I mentioned NG. I learned that lesson pretty fast and ever since then, I tell people (when asked), “Yes I am a disabled veteran, I was in the “military” for eight years”. Yes it’s slightly more dodgy to say it that way, however putting it that way causes people to react by making an attempt to imagine in their own mind (for a few seconds), what it was like for you, or would’ve been like for them, etc., before they judge your Veteran status so it is distracting slightly to them. By the time they remember they were about to judge you negatively, their mind is focused on the words military and Veteran instead of Army, National Guard or any particular branch. Takes the judgement right out of them, because your answer caused two different reactions to occur. #1. Caused a distraction by redirecting any previous thought they had focussed on originally, regardless of what it was. And #2. Changed the entire conversation, thought process, negative feelings and everything else, by making it neutral territory. Which immediately lowers that person’s guard, causing them to change their mental focus into subconsciously searching for their own justification of why they suddenly feel as though they can now trust you, rather than focusing on denying you. All you have to do at that point, is to allow them to easily and clearly see your integrity (easy enough), right?? It is, however when dealing with the VA know this, they review tens of thousands of veterans cases and face to face discussions with them as well. So while you can do this to any person with ease, including VA personnel. It’s good to also know you have set them at ease, and they are now comfortable, cheerful and positive while you wait, and wait, and wait, and wait for them to make a decision that could drastically change your life and/or your family’s life forever. When it comes to “hurry up and wait”, they all have PhD’s in that and their patience is endless, while all you have is hope while you wait. But at least you changed somebody’s day positively speaking, so that is where self satisfaction comes in, and now there are two happy people that are just waiting, and waiting and waiting and waiting. Sorry for such a long reply, I do that sometimes then forget what the topic was to begin with. Which reminds me, they don’t really believe in PTSD either, so it’s very difficult to achieve that diagnosis from them and receive a SCD rating for it. Have a great night, thank you all for your oath to defend the Constitution of the United States of America.
Daniel Sanchez
Posted at 03:09h, 23 JanuaryUnder the basic definition, a soldier who was ADT for basic training, and was discharged honorably would be considered a “Veteran”. However, he/she would not be eligible for benefits. Essentially, a veteran without benefits? Is this correct?
Jim Stinson
Posted at 01:50h, 12 JanuaryTo answer the 20 year guard and reserve question. It used to be you had to have 180 days of active duty to be considered a Veteran. Under the new Law Guard and Reserve members who served more than 20 years and who are eligible for retired pay at age 60 are now considered Veterans… This is a recent law change so there is a lot of confusion from the old timers with 180 days on the brain. Here is some reference…https://www.army.mil/article/180159/guard_and_reserve_members_receive_veteran_status ,https://www.ngaus.org/newsroom/news/all-guard-reserve-retirees-now-veterans-under-new-law ,https://ameriforce.net/reserve-national-guard-finally-get-veteran-status/ … Thank you to all who served, my favorite definition still remains “A veteran – whether active duty, retired, or national guard or reserve – is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to “The United States of America,” for an amount of “up to and including THEIR LIFE.”
Author: ~Unknown Author
Tom
Posted at 16:16h, 08 JanuaryHaving served my country for six years (1968-1974) as a Medic in the U.S.Army Reserves, I consider myself a Veteran. Adding my duty days together (basic, AIT, two weeks per year two plus days each month) I was in uniform approximately 380 days and stood ready to be called up for the entire six years.
I have never sought nor needed any VA benefits but it would be nice to have a VA card acknowledging my service.
Scott Foust
Posted at 16:06h, 06 JanuaryI served six years in the US Army Reserves (1980-1986), never was called to active duty, and received an honorable discharge . It was a standard, uneventful service. I realize that does not qualify me as a veteran for government-offered “veteran benefits”. However, occasions arise whereby civilian businesses offer discounts and perks to “veterans” or “those who have served”. I believe that a person who served honorably – regardless of the government’s definition of veteran – should be able to take advantage of these perks. For this purpose, it would be nice if the government could at least offer a wallet-sized military certification card which identifies us as individuals who served in the military. Does such a thing exist? Perhaps my “Honorable Discharge” certificate would be sufficient, but it is a full-sized sheet of paper. A wallet-sized card would be best, because you never know when you’ll be in those situations where you could use something on the fly that identifies you as a person who served.
Please advise if possible. Thank you.
Matt Terry
Posted at 19:34h, 23 AprilScott,
This does exist! You can fill out a requisite online or at your nearest VA Medical Center.
-Matt
Reuben
Posted at 22:20h, 08 NovemberMy father in law who is 81, served in the U.S. Army between the Korea and Vietnam wars. I think he served for about 2 years. He sadly says his not a veteran, though he still has his platoon cap. I don’t know if he is or not a veteran.
Adam
Posted at 06:37h, 10 NovemberVeterans who enlisted after September 7, 1980 “must have served 24 continuous months or the full period for which they were called to active duty in order to be eligible.”
However, this minimum duty requirement may not apply to Veterans who were discharged for a disability incurred or aggravated in the line of duty, for a hardship or “early out,” or those who served prior to September 7, 1980. Since there are a number of other exceptions to the minimum duty requirements, VA encourages all Veterans to apply so that we may determine their enrollment eligibility.
More information here: https://www.va.gov/healthbenefits/apply/veterans.asp
Kevin
Posted at 18:13h, 07 NovemberYes, the legal amount of days is 90 to be considered a veteran,thank you for your service
Mike
Posted at 20:44h, 26 OctoberFirst – let me clarify – I have never used nor will I ever use my DD214 for benefits or preference for jobs – nor have I ever claimed to be a vet out of respect for the men and women who are —– that being said .
I have a DD214 – never served active duty as i was dismissed during bootcamp due to EPTS conditions – EXISTED PRIOR TO SERVICE(EPTS) – at any rate I wanted to stay in but they dismissed me – under the law with my DD214 am I considered a vet or not.
Thank you to all who served honorably and who were willing to give the ultimate price
Adam
Posted at 02:35h, 07 NovemberIf you did not serve active duty I do not believe you would qualify as a veteran for the purposes of VA benefits.
Alan
Posted at 20:40h, 01 October19D Cavalry Scout, didn’t complete Basic Training but was in the Army for more than 180 days and was given Honorable Discharge, am i considered a Veteran?
Adam
Posted at 19:57h, 02 OctoberVeterans who enlisted after September 7, 1980 “must have served 24 continuous months or the full period for which they were called to active duty in order to be eligible.”
However, this minimum duty requirement may not apply to Veterans who were discharged for a disability incurred or aggravated in the line of duty, for a hardship or “early out,” or those who served prior to September 7, 1980. Since there are a number of other exceptions to the minimum duty requirements, VA encourages all Veterans to apply so that we may determine their enrollment eligibility.
More information here: https://www.va.gov/healthbenefits/apply/veterans.asp
Anthony Rickey
Posted at 01:22h, 27 SeptemberAre active duty members considered veterans?
Adam
Posted at 18:08h, 27 SeptemberFrom the Veteran’s Eligibility page on the VA page:
“For the purposes of VA health benefits and services, a person who served in the active military service and who was discharged or released under conditions other than dishonorable is a Veteran…. Most Veterans who enlisted after September 7, 1980, or entered active duty after October 16, 1981, must have served 24 continuous months or the full period for which they were called to active duty in order to be eligible. This minimum duty requirement may not apply to Veterans who were discharged for a disability incurred or aggravated in the line of duty, for a hardship or “early out,” or those who served prior to September 7, 1980. Since there are a number of other exceptions to the minimum duty requirements, VA encourages all Veterans to apply so that we may determine their enrollment eligibility.”
https://www.va.gov/healthbenefits/apply/veterans.asp
Frank
Posted at 19:35h, 15 SeptemberI enlisted Sept 27, 1990 with the Army National Guard, I left for Ft McClellan on Oct 18, 1990, I returned back March 6, 1991. I served a total of 3 years, and 5 years IRR, President Bush stated at that time that anyone who had served active duty during the Persian Gulf War was considered a veteran. After my ETS I had a DD214 and a NGB 22.
Fast forward to today, I never used any benefits because I didn’t need them. My wife and I were looking to refinance our house and a friend told me that I could get a VA loan, I just had to apply for the COE. I checked a bunch of websites to see if I qualified for a VA loan, and there it was, Yes I do, I had served more than 90 days during a time of war. I applied for the COE, attached my DD214 and NGB22, and started my long wait.
Yesterday I got a nice email, it stated that with the information provided that I do not qualify for a VA COE or Home Loan. I called them and asked why, I checked the qualifiers and it has it right there, I qualify. A very nice person on the phone looked into it and stated that my active time was during training and that does not qualify towards the time requirements.
I have to say that I feel like half of a veteran, I did my time during wartime, I was discharged honorably, I have a veteran licence plate, but I’m not good enough to get any benefits from the VA.
That is all.
Rodriguez
Posted at 00:01h, 16 SeptemberThe same is happen to me, I have my licence saying I am a veteran, I have a veteran licence plate as well too,in the state of Pennsylvania they gave me 5 point for state jobs, also I take state exam and use my D214 as a waive of the fee, I hope NY honor the 5 points for my current pass exams.
Pok Tel
Posted at 19:30h, 14 SeptemberAdmin discharge under chapter 5-17 with 16 months of military service. Am I considered to be a veteran? Also, I got injured in the military, do i still get VA medical benefits for my injury?
Adam
Posted at 20:12h, 15 SeptemberPok, you can find out more information about your veteran status by calling the VA Benefits help line at 1-800-827-1000.
Pam
Posted at 14:57h, 03 SeptemberMy cousin who was in the reserve Army national guard, got out after 20 years, got out in 1999, did his required weekends, gets base previlages to the PX, has a military ID card. Deployed 1 month (I don’t know where, to help cover the job) and he said he was told he is not a veteran. Would this be true? I have encouraged him to speak to the vey trans service rep here in town.
Thank you everyone for your service!
Adam
Posted at 21:48h, 04 SeptemberYou can find out more information about veteran status by calling the VA Benefits help line at 1-800-827-1000
Prisco E Entines
Posted at 19:40h, 17 AugustMy father – Pfc. Enrique Hape Entines – VA File # XCSS-06-380-570 – an alleged U.S. National, by compulsory military service for all 21 year olds, got enlisted with the August 1901 US-organized “Philippine Constabulary” (PC) on July 14, 1927 that was under the Department of the Interior till 1934. Before his Honorable Discharge (on July 17, 1930) for the required minimum three (3) year Military Service with the US Army, he got operated with “appendicitis” while still in service in Kingking, Davao of Mindanao – the southernmost part of the Philippine Islands, that was then the first and only U.S. Colony. He had then a service-connected disability, thus entitled to the life-long pension of $30.00/month. So with both his parents. For he was still single that time. On November of 1934 when the Philippines became a US Commonwealth by virtue of the Tydings-McDuffie Act a.k.a. 1934 Philippine Independence Act, Pfc. Entines was integrated with the US-Philippine Commonwealth Army (US-PCA) as trainor of the PCA trainees. But on July 26, 1941, U.S. President Roosevelt subjected him to the death penalty of Articles of War #58 for desertion by his World WAR II (WW2)-Conscription. Thus he was forced to leave his wife with SEVEN (7) children to fight for the US WAR against Japan. Very extremely tragic and definitely deeply traumatic, on March 25, 1945 as a US National WAR-Conscriptee, he died-in-line-of-duty (DILOD) leaving behind his WAR-widow with 7 Orphaned children. And what is very unconscionably egregious, if not preposterous, his service of some 18 years was reduced to FIVE (5) months only – from Nov. 1944 to March 25, 1945. And what is the most deeply traumatic was by an “Ex Post Facto” law – SECTION 107, 38 US Code of February 18, 1946 (almost a year after Pfc. Entines death) was ‘RETROACTIVELY applied to him, rendering his WW2 death-in-service NOT considered “ACTIVE”. For purposes of full and equal VA and SSA concurrent benefits. But somehow the Death Indemnity Compensation (DIC) was prejudicially approved from 1947 only. Instead of 1945. Making matters worse, by virtue of SECTION 107, 38 US Code by double jeopardy war-slavery, massive fraud and heartless treachery, his WAR pay was never paid fully and equally; the NSLI of $5,000.00 was never granted; and the DIC was reduced to 50% only of what Anglo-American widows fully and equally enjoyed. For me, after more than 30 years trying to persuade US Congress, the USVA and SSA to finally and permanently correct this very criminally-conspired and “historical” ‘injustice’, this would constitute the “Cruelest WAR and Hate-CRIME of the Century. And probably its final and permanent correction would demand a very strict scrutiny by either a “Grand Jury” and/or International WAR-Crime inquiry.
May, i therefore, beg for an opinion. For the latest issue of RACISM, BIGOTRY, WHITE SUPREMACY-Violence-related at Charlotesville, Virginia, undoubtedly reveal all these years that the legalized SECTION 2169 Revised Statutes, judicially-sanctioned in some 31 Racist US Federal Supreme Court decisions (with DRED Scott v. Sanford (1857) decision as the core of the Apartheid. WithOUT mentioning the different SEVEN (7) Racist Court
decisions versus the US National-demoted “FILIPINO NEGRO” (from 1912 till 1941) v.g. Javier v. US and De Cano v. Washington State (1940), respectively. Thanks for vindicating a true WW2 Heroes’ families’ equal human dignity, justice, honor and respect. More power to truly and unbiasedly recognize US WAR Veterans of all WARS and of all country-origins, collar, culture and races. God bless us all with true and lasting Peace rooted only in real JUSTICE for all.
Brenda Wilson
Posted at 16:50h, 15 AugustHubby served during Vietnam era in Airforce. He was stationed in Ak as c130 mechanic and was never overseas. So no boots on ground but still served during war time.
Question: why can’t he be service connected?
Adam
Posted at 21:18h, 15 AugustBrenda, you’ll have to contact the VA benefits office for more information at 1-800-827-1000
Robert Plourde
Posted at 01:16h, 10 AugustAdam…
Not always easy… and decisions not always fair.
situation
4 yrs ROTC which doesn’t count, Understood. Began Sept 1954.
From 22 Sep 1958 to 21 Mar 1959… 181 days
Active duty… 8 weeks IOLC Inf Off leadership Course (abbreviated OCS @ Benning) and balance, assigned to Ft Devens Mass. (This is shown on DD214.
Transferred to active reserves on March 21st due to a one time, little known “for the benefit of the government” release, because of the oversupply of 2nd Lt’s when noncoms were coming back from Korea and wanted promotions… Short term… one time offer.
I served in the reserves until 4 Feb 1969 when I was honorably discharged as Captain, US Army.
No benefits at all. Benefit denial cited ACDUTRA, but the active duty time totaled 181 days.
According to the rules, I guess I’m just not a veteran @ age 81. Would sure like to have that time back, or at least be allowed to be called a veteran.
Bob
Posted at 20:34h, 17 Julytwo years was active duty in the Army
Bob
Posted at 20:33h, 17 JulyMy dad served 2 years in the 1950’s, 4 years reserve. What is he is eligible for when it comes to benefits?
Adam
Posted at 17:14h, 27 JulyYou can find out more information on this by calling the VA Benefits help line at 1-800-827-1000
Andrea Fox
Posted at 20:48h, 05 JulyIf I was active duty Army, but discharged medically in basic does that count as being a veteran? I have a DD214
Adam
Posted at 05:37h, 08 JulyAndrea, according to USC 38 4211 the term veteran is reserved for those who served on active duty for at least 180 days.
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title38/html/USCODE-2011-title38-partIII-chap42-sec4211.htm
(4) The term “eligible veteran” means a person who—
(A) served on active duty for a period of more than 180 days and was discharged or released therefrom with other than a dishonorable discharge;
(B) was discharged or released from active duty because of a service-connected disability;
(C) as a member of a reserve component under an order to active duty pursuant to section 12301(a), (d), or (g), 12302, or 12304 of title 10, served on active duty during a period of war or in a campaign or expedition for which a campaign badge is authorized and was discharged or released from such duty with other than a dishonorable discharge; or
(D) was discharged or released from active duty by reason of a sole survivorship discharge (as that term is defined in section 1174(i) of title 10).
Joe
Posted at 00:05h, 03 JulyThe website clarified the definition of a veteran. I served in the Air National Guard from 1956 to 1962, during the cold war and our unit came close to being activated during the Berlin wall crisis. However, since I never participated in any war, I don’t consider myself a “veteran” so I can’t include myself with those brave men and women who served in wars.
Gene
Posted at 20:44h, 13 JuneIs a person that served for 20 plus years in the Army National Guard (No active duty except ADT) who is collecting retirement benefits considered a veteran?
Daryl Reed
Posted at 04:39h, 23 JuneThe best way I can explain the question that most have ” Am i considered a Veteran” is this. Only the Veterans Administration can answer that question. I encourage everyone who served Active Duty, Ready Reserve , IRR and National Guard is to visit a veteran service officer once you are discharged and no longer have an obligation to one of the services, apply for VA health care by going to your local VA clinic or VA Hospital. they will tell you if you meet the requirements as a veteran. It helps to bring with you your discharge papers, or DD214. If the National Guard doesn’t give you a DD214 then you have your answer. Speak to your unit personnel before you leave the service . Ask those questions before you get out, once you are out you are basically on your own. “Nobody will take care of you better than you”.
MH
Posted at 13:53h, 01 JuneI have an employee who served as an inactive Marine reservist for 10 years. Would he still not be considered a Veteran?
Mark
Posted at 11:50h, 06 JuneNo, he is not a “Veteran”. ‘Inactive’ is the key word.
richard
Posted at 00:33h, 31 MayPeople often get confused about the term Veteran:
The VA generally defines a Veteran only in regards to eligibility for VA benefits…
For example a Reservist or Guardsman may not qualify for VA health benefits because he/she did not serve a qualifying Active duty period for that particular benefit but he/she may qualify for another VA benefit like a VA home loan or VA educational benefits (GI bill)…..
In short the VA basically says if you did full-time traditional active duty you qualify for most benefits if you did Active Duty Training-ADT in the reserves (weekend drills are not considered ADT)) it is also considered qualifying active duty for some Veterans benefits like educational benefits and not for others like VA health Care. Reserve Hon discharge may also qualify someone VA benefits other than Health Care
The American Legion and the VFW both have slightly different definitions of a qualified Veteran for entry into their organization. Many Reservist may qualify for the American Legion and short take a stroll to their membership web-site.
Finally, don’t equate getting VA health care as the only thing that qualifies someone as a veteran…it does not. If you served in any military branch and were discharged Honorably you are a Veteran…qualifying for certain VA benefits is an entirely different issue.
Mark
Posted at 11:49h, 06 JuneACTIVE DUTY qualifications make the difference.
stephen j kuk
Posted at 17:44h, 30 Maymy service dates jan 1960 to oct 1962
I want to join VA medical plan.
pls advise
VA.org Editor
Posted at 13:27h, 02 JuneYou can join here: https://www.va.gov/healthbenefits/
Grace
Posted at 18:05h, 24 AprilI am the mother of a young man who was enlisted in the National Guard. My son graduated from boot camp and then was enrolled in AIT during his short time there he was discharge and sent home because of failure to adapt in the military which was in July 2013. Is he considered a veteran?
Mark
Posted at 11:47h, 06 JuneNO.
Craig
Posted at 18:15h, 02 MarchAlthough not armed forces, are other uniformed services like the Commissioned Corps of the US Public Health Service considered veterans? Some of those Officers are attached to military units. Would that be a case by case exception?
Ronald Blanchette
Posted at 14:08h, 11 FebruaryI was in the Coiast Guard Reserve for six years, I am not looking for benefite of any kind, I am just asking if I can classify myself as a veteran.
Gregg Housh
Posted at 18:51h, 02 NovemberYes. Members of the Coast Guard are considered veterans.
Mark
Posted at 11:47h, 06 JuneNO.
Jesse Hanner
Posted at 16:58h, 31 Decemberif you had to stand in a chow line over an hour and sleep in a berthing compartment with a 90 + other guys I feel you qualify as a veteran. Of course you worked at least 18 out of 24 hours a day. Spent weeks or months away from family, friends, and loved ones. yeah Rickmin you signed a blank check,, oh, you’re a Veteran! What what was your rate and thanks for your service?!
Wendy
Posted at 01:52h, 20 JanuaryMy question is for anyone… If someone does not finish boot camp and is discharged due mental distress.. Is that person still considered a Veteran?
Megan
Posted at 20:41h, 23 JanuaryHere is the definition of a US Veteran:
Under federal law, a veteran is any person who served honorably on active duty in the armed forces of the United States. Discharges marked “general and under honorable conditions” also qualify.
Ken Cyrus
Posted at 14:25h, 07 JulyIs this “either/or?” in other words, is someone who did not serve on active duty, but who receives a discharge marked “general and under honorable conditions” considered a veteran? I’m not interested in veterans’ benefits, I just don’t want to misrepresent myself. But I have not seen a direct answer to this question.
Rodriguez
Posted at 23:55h, 15 Septemberthe answer is NO because first you id not meet the 180 days secondly you discharge will say medical or other than, so the answer is no
Charlie Fisk
Posted at 05:59h, 15 MayNo.
Charlie Fisk
Posted at 05:59h, 15 MayNo.
Mark
Posted at 11:46h, 06 JuneNO.
Darla
Posted at 15:22h, 18 JanuaryI know I don’t qualify for veteran benefits but wanted to confirm if I am still considered a veteran.
I served in the South Dakota National Guard and was honorably discharged. I did Basic and AIT training and was in for only 2-3 years total. I was never sent anywhere so I’m not sure if I’m considered a veteran or not.
Megan
Posted at 20:41h, 23 JanuaryHere is the definition of a US Veteran:
Under federal law, a veteran is any person who served honorably on active duty in the armed forces of the United States. Discharges marked “general and under honorable conditions” also qualify.
Bobby Liles
Posted at 23:48h, 24 SeptemberQuestion is a person a vet if they didn’t pass the medical physical. Only there for 30 days discharged honorable.
Adam
Posted at 18:37h, 27 SeptemberMost Veterans who enlisted after September 7, 1980, or entered active duty after October 16, 1981, must have served 24 continuous months or the full period for which they were called to active duty in order to be eligible. This minimum duty requirement may not apply to Veterans who were discharged for a disability incurred or aggravated in the line of duty, for a hardship or “early out,” or those who served prior to September 7, 1980. Since there are a number of other exceptions to the minimum duty requirements, VA encourages all Veterans to apply so that we may determine their enrollment eligibility.
More information here: https://www.va.gov/healthbenefits/apply/veterans.asp
Charlie Fisk
Posted at 05:59h, 15 MayNope.
Chuck
Posted at 15:46h, 30 DecemberMy question is the same as others that do not seem to have been answered. I served a total of 12 years, in the Air National Guard and Air Force Reserves, as determined by available bases when moving to different states. I am not looking for VA benefits, but simply need to know if I am considered a Veteran, or not. Never activated by state or fed. gov’t, but did “weekend warrior” and two-weeks in the summers, as required. During funerals, Veterans can salute the flag and the processions while civilians put their hand on their heart. I need to know which I am entitled to. Plus, I don’t want to dishonor actual Veterans by calling myself one if I am not.
Megan
Posted at 16:31h, 05 JanuaryHere is the definition of a US Veteran:
Under federal law, a veteran is any person who served honorably on active duty in the armed forces of the United States. Discharges marked “general and under honorable conditions” also qualify.
Mark
Posted at 11:44h, 06 JuneThis is a VERY limited criteria! You have to be ACTIVE, 24/7, This is why most reservist that were never called to ACTIVE duty are NOT “veterans”, but they should be respected for their commitment.
Ken Cyrus
Posted at 14:23h, 07 JulyI have the same issue and concern. I am not interested in VA benefits, just in knowing whether I would be an imposter if I stand when they ask veterans to stand. Did you ever get a direct answer to your question?
Adam
Posted at 05:40h, 08 JulyAccording to USC 38 4211 the term veteran is reserved for those who served on active duty for at least 180 days.
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title38/html/USCODE-2011-title38-partIII-chap42-sec4211.htm
(4) The term “eligible veteran” means a person who—
(A) served on active duty for a period of more than 180 days and was discharged or released therefrom with other than a dishonorable discharge;
(B) was discharged or released from active duty because of a service-connected disability;
(C) as a member of a reserve component under an order to active duty pursuant to section 12301(a), (d), or (g), 12302, or 12304 of title 10, served on active duty during a period of war or in a campaign or expedition for which a campaign badge is authorized and was discharged or released from such duty with other than a dishonorable discharge; or
(D) was discharged or released from active duty by reason of a sole survivorship discharge (as that term is defined in section 1174(i) of title 10).
Will Bentley
Posted at 01:50h, 08 FebruaryYour reference, 10 USC 4211, only pertains to certain employment and training programs…not the general definition of “veteran” used by 38 CFR 3.12a and 3.6 that require 24 months of non-training Federal active duty, or the full period that a reserve is called to Title 10 duty for other than training (or when discharged/retired for disability, or reserves retired with 20+ years qualifying Federal service for retirement…).
However, in the context of employment and training VA benefits, 10 USC 4211 is useful.
Cheers,
Will Bentley
Posted at 01:55h, 08 FebruarySee 38 CFR 3.6 and 3.12a at: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/38/3.6
If you meet the active duty (other than for training) requirements of 1 day (pre-Sept 1980), or 24 months of standard active duty as a Regular, or 24 months active duty (other than for training) as a Reserve, OR were discharged/retired for disability, OR were called up and completed any reserve duty orders other than for training, OR were retired as a reserve, you are a ‘veteran’ by law.
Or, you should make the decision that your service is certainly good enough, and just do what feels right. there is enough confusion on this! Who actually knows the true Answer? The spirit of the rules should say that anyone who served honorably is a veteran…if not, then not a veteran. My two cents…
Before 8 Sept 1980, it only required one day of “active duty” service, that is service other than for training.
After 8 Sept 1980, if you were a Regular, you must serve 24 months active duty, or the contracted obligated active service if less (which was unlikely) of active duty, OR be discharged/retired for disability, to be a “veteran.”
If you were a reserve, you must serve either 24 months of Title 10 federal active duty, OR the contracted obligated period of active duty (if less than 24 months, which was unlikely as there are few 1 year contracts), OR the full period for which mobilized under contingency authorities (like 10 USC 12302 or 12304), OR be discharged/retired for disability, OR retire with 20+ years of Federal qualifying service, to be a “veteran.”
However, someone who has a service-connected disability from a shorter period of service, may also be a veteran…if they have any SC disabilities rated by VA or the Service for their period of service. If they don’t, they might want to apply, because they might qualify. Maybe. Only the VA can say no, and they provide for appeals.
If you were a Regular, then your basic training and all other active duty was “active duty,” and is qualifying for veteran status, as defined in law.
If you were a reserve, then your basic training, all MOS schools, any other courses, all drill weekends/inactive duty for training, and all annual training (2 weeks per year) was “active duty for training,” which is not qualifying service for veteran status (unless disability occurs there). Only Federal, Title 10 “calls to duty” such as for mobilizations, contingencies, or even 12301d service for ADOS/ADSW orders to serve on active duty, those are qualifying, day for day, and I would say that ANY such calls to duty under Title 10, if completed as required, are qualifying for “veteran” status.
If you were discharged without being afforded the protections of the disability evaluation system, and without being given a medical evaluation board, you might still be able to change your discharge by submitting an appeal to the Board for Correction of Military/Naval/Air Force records. This preserves your rights.
Otherwise, you should apply to the VA or a state agency for any veteran benefit you think you are eligible for, as only that Agency can give you a decision; everyone else’s comments are just opinions on the matter.
Good luck,
Will Bentley
Posted at 01:57h, 08 FebruarySee 38 CFR 3.6 and 3.12a at: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/38/3.6
If you meet the active duty (other than for training) requirements of 1 day (pre-Sept 1980), or 24 months of standard active duty as a Regular, or 24 months active duty (other than for training) as a Reserve, OR were discharged/retired for disability, OR were called up and completed any reserve duty orders other than for training, OR were retired as a reserve, you are a ‘veteran’ by law.
Or, you should make the decision that your service is certainly good enough, and just do what feels right. There is enough confusion on this! Who actually knows the true Answer? The spirit of the rules should say that anyone who served honorably is a veteran…if not, then not a veteran. My two cents…
Before 8 Sept 1980, it only required one day of “active duty” service, that is service other than for training.
After 8 Sept 1980, if you were a Regular, you must serve 24 months active duty, or the contracted obligated active service if less (which was unlikely) of active duty, OR be discharged/retired for disability, to be a “veteran.”
If you were a reserve, you must serve either 24 months of Title 10 federal active duty, OR the contracted obligated period of active duty (if less than 24 months, which was unlikely as there are few 1 year contracts), OR the full period for which mobilized under contingency authorities (like 10 USC 12302 or 12304), OR be discharged/retired for disability, OR retire with 20+ years of Federal qualifying service, to be a “veteran.”
However, someone who has a service-connected disability from a shorter period of service, may also be a veteran…if they have any SC disabilities rated by VA or the Service for their period of service. If they don’t, they might want to apply, because they might qualify. Maybe. Only the VA can say no, and they provide for appeals.
If you were a Regular, then your basic training and all other active duty was “active duty,” and is qualifying for veteran status, as defined in law.
If you were a reserve, then your basic training, all MOS schools, any other courses, all drill weekends/inactive duty for training, and all annual training (2 weeks per year) was “active duty for training,” which is not qualifying service for veteran status (unless disability occurs there). Only Federal, Title 10 “calls to duty” such as for mobilizations, contingencies, or even 12301d service for ADOS/ADSW orders to serve on active duty, those are qualifying, day for day, and I would say that ANY such calls to duty under Title 10, if completed as required, are qualifying for “veteran” status.
If you were discharged without being afforded the protections of the disability evaluation system, and without being given a medical evaluation board, you might still be able to change your discharge by submitting an appeal to the Board for Correction of Military/Naval/Air Force records. This preserves your rights.
Otherwise, you should apply to the VA or a state agency for any veteran benefit you think you are eligible for, as only that Agency can give you a decision; everyone else’s comments are just opinions on the matter.
Good luck,
Jimmy W Stiglets
Posted at 23:14h, 07 DecemberA friend who served 18 years in the Army Reserve and later in the IRR, asked if he was considered to be a veteran. He simply wants to know if, for his service, none of which was on active duty, qualified him to be called a veteran.
I told him that my personal opinion is that he is a veteran, even though he never served on Active, he did enlist and swore an oath to our country. This oath made him subject to being called to serve, and die if necessary, to protect and defend our Nation. That’s why I feel that he is entitled to be called a veteran, even with veteran benefits.
I have looked several places online but I haven’t found any sites that speak specifically to this question. They talk about Active Duty, National Guard and Army Reserve Service, but don’t speak to whether a person who was a member of the National Guard or Army Reserve never serving on Active Duty is considered a veteran or not.
Any information that you could provide that I might pass on to my friend would be sincerely appreciated.
Thank you.
Jimmy W Stiglets
Posted at 23:18h, 07 DecemberThis is Jimmy Stiglets. iN REREADING my comment above, I need to correct the last sentence in the 2nd paragraph. I meant to say ” That’s why I feel that he is entitled to be called a veteran, even WITHOUT veteran benefits.”
Megan
Posted at 15:55h, 21 DecemberThank you for this correction!
Garrick Anderson
Posted at 22:39h, 11 NovemberI have an Honorable Discharge after 2 years in NROTC; during which time I moved over to the Marine Option program. I trained some at MCRD (no boot camp); and spent a summer training on a cruiser in the Pacific.
Does this qualify me as a veteran without benefits?
Will Bentley
Posted at 01:33h, 08 FebruaryBased on your information, I’d say “no” because you did not complete one day (before 1980) of “active duty” (that is, without training), and after 1980, you did not complete 24 months of active duty (without training), or complete the entire period of a set of non-training active duty orders, i.e., mobilization orders, etc., as a reserve. All ROTC cadets and midshipmen who perform duty on orders are actually enlisted reserves, so the reserve rules pertain.
Before 8 Sept 1980, it only required one day of active duty service, that is service other than for training.
After 8 Sept 1980, if you were a Regular, you must serve 24 months, or the contracted obligated service if less (which was unlikely) of active duty, OR be discharged/retired for disability, to be a “veteran.”
If you were a reserve, you must serve either 24 months of Title 10 federal active duty, OR the contracted obligated period of active duty, OR the period for which mobilized under contingency authorities (like 10 USC 12302 or 12304), OR be discharged/retired for disability, OR retire with 20+ years of Federal qualifying service, to be a “veteran.”
However, someone who has a service-connected disability from a shorter period of service, may also be a veteran, such as yourself…if you have any SC disabilities rated by VA or the Service for your period of service. If you don’t, you might want to apply, because you might qualify. Maybe. Only the VA can say no, and they provide for appeals.
If you were a Regular, then your basic training and all other active duty was “active duty,” and is qualifying for veteran status, as defined in law.
If you were a reserve, then your basic training, all MOS schools, any other courses, all drill weekends/inactive duty for training, and all annual training (2 weeks per year) was “active duty for training,” which is not qualifying service for veteran status (unless disability occurs there). Only Federal, Title 10 “calls to duty” such as for mobilizations, contingencies, or even 12301d service for ADOS/ADSW orders to serve on active duty, those are qualifying, day for day, and I would say that ANY such calls to duty under Title 10, if completed as required, are qualifying for “veteran” status.
If you were discharged without being afforded the protections of the disability evaluation system, and without being given a medical evaluation board, you might still be able to change your discharge by submitting an appeal to the Board for Correction of Military/Naval/Air Force records. This preserves your rights.
Otherwise, you should apply to the VA or a state agency for any veteran benefit you think you are eligible for, as only that Agency can give you a decision; everyone else’s comments are just opinions on the matter.
You should note, however, you DID serve. Pat yourself for that! Most cannot say that. I was active enlisted Marine, then Marine option NROTC, hated that, and was commissioned as officer of Marines, retired 25 years later.
Semper fi,
Will Bentley
Posted at 01:35h, 08 FebruaryIf he retired as a reserve, then yes, he qualifies as a veteran even if he has no benefits other than reserve retirement.
If he did not retire, then read on…
Before 8 Sept 1980, it only required one day of active duty service, that is service other than for training.
After 8 Sept 1980, if you were a Regular, you must serve 24 months, or the contracted obligated service if less (which was unlikely) of active duty, OR be discharged/retired for disability, to be a “veteran.”
If you were a reserve, you must serve either 24 months of Title 10 federal active duty, OR the contracted obligated period of active duty, OR the period for which mobilized under contingency authorities (like 10 USC 12302 or 12304), OR be discharged/retired for disability, OR retire with 20+ years of Federal qualifying service, to be a “veteran.”
However, someone who has a service-connected disability from a shorter period of service, may also be a veteran, such as yourself…if you have any SC disabilities rated by VA or the Service for your period of service. If you don’t, you might want to apply, because you might qualify. Maybe. Only the VA can say no, and they provide for appeals.
If you were a Regular, then your basic training and all other active duty was “active duty,” and is qualifying for veteran status, as defined in law.
If you were a reserve, then your basic training, all MOS schools, any other courses, all drill weekends/inactive duty for training, and all annual training (2 weeks per year) was “active duty for training,” which is not qualifying service for veteran status (unless disability occurs there). Only Federal, Title 10 “calls to duty” such as for mobilizations, contingencies, or even 12301d service for ADOS/ADSW orders to serve on active duty, those are qualifying, day for day, and I would say that ANY such calls to duty under Title 10, if completed as required, are qualifying for “veteran” status.
If you were discharged without being afforded the protections of the disability evaluation system, and without being given a medical evaluation board, you might still be able to change your discharge by submitting an appeal to the Board for Correction of Military/Naval/Air Force records. This preserves your rights.
Otherwise, you should apply to the VA or a state agency for any veteran benefit you think you are eligible for, as only that Agency can give you a decision; everyone else’s comments are just opinions on the matter.
Good luck,
Megan
Posted at 15:53h, 21 DecemberFor information about veteran eligibility see:
https://www.va.gov/healthbenefits/apply/veterans.asp
Kim Adragna
Posted at 19:52h, 15 NovemberMy father was in the National Guard for 8 years around 1956 to 1964. His he considered a veteran?
John
Posted at 19:56h, 17 NovemberNational Guard and Reserve
Two particular elements of the criteria to be a veteran—“active duty” and “length of service”— are often difficult for members of the National Guard and the reserve components to meet. As a result, these servicemembers, having not met the statutory threshold criteria for “veteran,” are often not eligible for VA benefits. In many cases, members of the Guard and the reserves may not have fulfilled the “active duty” requirement. Members of the Guard and reserves who have never been activated for federal active duty military service, and consequently have not served on regular federal active duty, do not meet the active duty requirement for the definition of a veteran for VA benefits. For other National Guard and reserve members, the two requirements may be met at the same time. An example of this situation would be a Guard or reserve member who was activated for federal military service and served in the Persian Gulf for 12 months. At the end of the activation period, the servicemember would be considered to have served on active duty for that period of
Will Bentley
Posted at 01:28h, 08 FebruaryBefore 8 Sept 1980, it only required one day of active duty service, that is service other than for training. So, the question is, did your father perform even one day of active duty (other than for training)? That means active duty under Title 10 orders for mobilization, or some other special purpose, not the standard drill weekends, 2 week summer camps, or basic training, because those are “active duty for training,” which are not included.
After 8 Sept 1980, if you were a Regular, you must serve 24 months, or the contracted obligated service if less (which was unlikely) of active duty, OR be discharged/retired for disability, to be a “veteran.”
If you were a reserve, you must serve either 24 months of Title 10 federal active duty, OR the contracted obligated period of active duty, OR the period for which mobilized under contingency authorities (like 10 USC 12302 or 12304), OR be discharged/retired for disability, OR retire with 20+ years of Federal qualifying service, to be a “veteran.”
However, someone who has a service-connected disability from a shorter period of service, may also be a veteran, such as yourself…if you have any SC disabilities rated by VA or the Service for your period of service. If you don’t, you might want to apply, because you might qualify. Maybe. Only the VA can say no, and they provide for appeals.
If you were a Regular, then your basic training and all other active duty was “active duty,” and is qualifying for veteran status, as defined in law.
If you were a reserve, then your basic training, all MOS schools, any other courses, all drill weekends/inactive duty for training, and all annual training (2 weeks per year) was “active duty for training,” which is not qualifying service for veteran status (unless disability occurs there). Only Federal, Title 10 “calls to duty” such as for mobilizations, contingencies, or even 12301d service for ADOS/ADSW orders to serve on active duty, those are qualifying, day for day, and I would say that ANY such calls to duty under Title 10, if completed as required, are qualifying for “veteran” status.
If you were discharged without being afforded the protections of the disability evaluation system, and without being given a medical evaluation board, you might still be able to change your discharge by submitting an appeal to the Board for Correction of Military/Naval/Air Force records. This preserves your rights.
Otherwise, you should apply to the VA or a state agency for any veteran benefit you think you are eligible for, as only that Agency can give you a decision; everyone else’s comments are just opinions on the matter.
Good luck,
John
Posted at 02:09h, 15 NovemberBefore I ask a question I would like to thank all those who have served and who are serving our country May the lord bless you and your families,, I have had this question on my mind for years now, and when I have asked it in the past I get so many different answers I don’t what to think…. Back in Early Nov 1976 I enlisted in the USMC during Boot camp training I developed a hernia. They sent me to a doctor that could hardly speech English and it scared the crap out of me haha… They wanted to operate etc… I was really spooked about this being away from home and no speak thee English doctor.. so I decided to ask if I could have my own personal doctor take care of this.. they said yes but we have to discharge you.. I said well OK.. ( one of the biggest mistake of my life I regret it till this day 40 years later, I even have dreams re-enlisting to this day wish I could.) I was young immature at the time. So I was giving an Honorable discharge, DD 256 certificate, DD 214 showing NET Active service, total active service and total service for pay. So here is my question… Mind you back in 1976 things were a little bit different then they are today, I was wondering if I qualify for VA BENEFITS like health care. with this Obama care coverage its killing my wallet, and I was wonder if I would qualify… I was reading all the VA rules and according to this rule I will post here ….. QUOTE: (Length of Service Prior to September 8, 1980, there was no minimum length of service necessary to be considered a veteran for most VA benefits. However, for an individual who enlisted after September 8, 1980, there are now certain minimum length of service requirements. The general requirement is either 24 months of continuous active duty or the “full period” for which the service member was called or ordered to active duty.14) END QUOTE: With this being said I’m just wondering if my service in boot camp was ACTIVE DUTY or ACTIVE DUTY IN TRAINING, because it only states ACTIVE duty on my DD 214 plus the honorable discharge along with it… would they give me an honorable discharge with a DD214 if it was considered (active duty for training)? or wouldn’t they stay it was ACTIVE DUTY FOR TRAINING ON THE DD 214? I appreciate those who took the time to read my lengthy question. Im not trying to promote myself as a seasoned veteran so please this question is not about me being a veteran but only being able to get VA health care if I qualify. So my understanding is if your in the service full time 24/7 your active duty starts from day one, but if your reservist your not considered full time your considered ACTIVE DUTY FOR TRAINING is this correct? . Thanks and God be with all of you daily.
Paul leonard
Posted at 12:49h, 28 NovemberPlease reply toquestion
Paul leonard
Posted at 12:55h, 28 NovemberI’m looking for answer toKlm,s and John,s question
Will Bentley
Posted at 01:26h, 08 FebruaryAnswer posted…at least my Answer. Perhaps it will be useful to you. Cheers,
Will Bentley
Posted at 01:26h, 08 FebruaryI’d say you are not only a veteran, but eligible for VA benefits like health care. You need to apply, though, for a decision by the VA.
You were a Regular, thus, your active duty was active duty. Only reserves need to have the difference between “active duty” and “active duty for training.”
Before 8 Sept 1980, it only required one day of active duty service, that is service other than for training.
After 8 Sept 1980, if you were a Regular, you must serve 24 months, or the contracted obligated service if less (which was unlikely) of active duty, OR be discharged/retired for disability, to be a “veteran.”
If you were a reserve, you must serve either 24 months of Title 10 federal active duty, OR the contracted obligated period of active duty, OR the period for which mobilized under contingency authorities (like 10 USC 12302 or 12304), OR be discharged/retired for disability, OR retire with 20+ years of Federal qualifying service, to be a “veteran.”
However, someone who has a service-connected disability from a shorter period of service, may also be a veteran, such as yourself…if you have any SC disabilities rated by VA or the Service for your period of service. If you don’t, you might want to apply, because you might qualify. Maybe. Only the VA can say no, and they provide for appeals.
If you were a Regular, then your basic training and all other active duty was “active duty,” and is qualifying for veteran status, as defined in law.
If you were a reserve, then your basic training, all MOS schools, any other courses, all drill weekends/inactive duty for training, and all annual training (2 weeks per year) was “active duty for training,” which is not qualifying service for veteran status (unless disability occurs there). Only Federal, Title 10 “calls to duty” such as for mobilizations, contingencies, or even 12301d service for ADOS/ADSW orders to serve on active duty, those are qualifying, day for day, and I would say that ANY such calls to duty under Title 10, if completed as required, are qualifying for “veteran” status.
If you were discharged without being afforded the protections of the disability evaluation system, and without being given a medical evaluation board, you might still be able to change your discharge by submitting an appeal to the Board for Correction of Military/Naval/Air Force records. This preserves your rights.
Otherwise, you should apply to the VA or a state agency for any veteran benefit you think you are eligible for, as only that Agency can give you a decision; everyone else’s comments are just opinions on the matter.
Good luck,
Richard F Merrick
Posted at 20:40h, 11 NovemberI was member of the National Guard Army Reserve for eight and half years and discharged a SSG E -6.A member Aug 5 1952 discharged Mar 6 1961 can i say i am a veteran.
Thanks very much Richard Merrick
James
Posted at 00:14h, 29 MayYes you can but if you never put in any active duty them your not eligible for federal veterans benifits.
Will Bentley
Posted at 01:22h, 08 FebruaryBefore 8 Sept 1980, it only required one day of active duty service, that is service other than for training.
After 8 Sept 1980, if you were a Regular, you must serve 24 months, or the contracted obligated service if less (which was unlikely) of active duty, OR be discharged/retired for disability, to be a “veteran.”
If you were a reserve, you must serve either 24 months of Title 10 federal active duty, OR the contracted obligated period of active duty, OR the period for which mobilized under contingency authorities (like 10 USC 12302 or 12304), OR be discharged/retired for disability, OR retire with 20+ years of Federal qualifying service, to be a “veteran.”
However, someone who has a service-connected disability from a shorter period of service, may also be a veteran, such as yourself…if you have any SC disabilities rated by VA or the Service for your period of service. If you don’t, you might want to apply, because you might qualify. Maybe. Only the VA can say no, and they provide for appeals.
If you were a Regular, then your basic training and all other active duty was “active duty,” and is qualifying for veteran status, as defined in law.
If you were a reserve, then your basic training, all MOS schools, any other courses, all drill weekends/inactive duty for training, and all annual training (2 weeks per year) was “active duty for training,” which is not qualifying service for veteran status (unless disability occurs there). Only Federal, Title 10 “calls to duty” such as for mobilizations, contingencies, or even 12301d service for ADOS/ADSW orders to serve on active duty, those are qualifying, day for day, and I would say that ANY such calls to duty under Title 10, if completed as required, are qualifying for “veteran” status.
If you were discharged without being afforded the protections of the disability evaluation system, and without being given a medical evaluation board, you might still be able to change your discharge by submitting an appeal to the Board for Correction of Military/Naval/Air Force records. This preserves your rights.
Otherwise, you should apply to the VA or a state agency for any veteran benefit you think you are eligible for, as only that Agency can give you a decision; everyone else’s comments are just opinions on the matter.
Good luck,
makia
Posted at 18:37h, 30 Octoberwhat is a veteran
VA.org Editor
Posted at 15:52h, 08 NovemberFor the purposes of VA health benefits and services, a person who served in the active military service and who was discharged or released under conditions other than dishonorable is a Veteran.
Robert Redfern
Posted at 19:26h, 24 MayThis question about “Am I a vet or am I not? ” is very troubling for a lot of us. I was in the Air Force Reserve did my 6 years and then served 2 more. I would have stayed for 20 if it wasn’t for my job. But from what I read, I could have served 20+ in the Reserves and I would not be eligible for any benefits at all, correct? I too feel unsure about my status so much so that when I am at an event and someone asks if all the vets in the room would please stand in order to be recognized, I am slow getting out of my seat because I still have a question in my mind and it has been 40 years since I was in uniform. Very sad for all of us, especially those of us that reenlisted when we could have walked away.
Mark
Posted at 11:38h, 06 JuneThe title of ‘Veteran’ , and benefit eligibility are two completely different things.
Will Bentley
Posted at 01:20h, 08 FebruaryBefore 8 Sept 1980, it only required one day of active duty service, that is service other than for training.
After 8 Sept 1980, if you were a Regular, you must serve 24 months, or the contracted obligated service if less (which was unlikely) of active duty, OR be discharged/retired for disability, to be a “veteran.”
If you were a reserve, you must serve either 24 months of Title 10 federal active duty, OR the contracted obligated period of active duty, OR the period for which mobilized under contingency authorities (like 10 USC 12302 or 12304), OR be discharged/retired for disability, to be a “veteran.”
However, someone who has a service-connected disability from a shorter period of service, may also be a veteran, such as yourself…if you have any SC disabilities rated by VA or the Service for your period of service. If you don’t, you might want to apply, because you might qualify. Maybe. Only the VA can say no, and they provide for appeals.
If you were a Regular, then your basic training and all other active duty was “active duty,” and is qualifying for veteran status, as defined in law.
If you were a reserve, then your basic training, all MOS schools, any other courses, all drill weekends/inactive duty for training, and all annual training (2 weeks per year) was “active duty for training,” which is not qualifying service for veteran status (unless disability occurs there). Only Federal, Title 10 “calls to duty” such as for mobilizations, contingencies, or even 12301d service for ADOS/ADSW orders to serve on active duty, those are qualifying, day for day, and I would say that ANY such calls to duty under Title 10, if completed as required, are qualifying for “veteran” status.
If you were discharged without being afforded the protections of the disability evaluation system, and without being given a medical evaluation board, you might still be able to change your discharge by submitting an appeal to the Board for Correction of Military/Naval/Air Force records. This preserves your rights.
Otherwise, you should apply to the VA or a state agency for any veteran benefit you think you are eligible for, as only that Agency can give you a decision; everyone else’s comments are just opinions on the matter.
Good luck,
Will Bentley
Posted at 01:20h, 08 FebruaryBefore 8 Sept 1980, it only required one day of active duty service, that is service other than for training.
After 8 Sept 1980, if you were a Regular, you must serve 24 months, or the contracted obligated service if less (which was unlikely) of active duty, OR be discharged/retired for disability, to be a “veteran.”
If you were a reserve, you must serve either 24 months of Title 10 federal active duty, OR the contracted obligated period of active duty, OR the period for which mobilized under contingency authorities (like 10 USC 12302 or 12304), OR be discharged/retired for disability, to be a “veteran.”
However, someone who has a service-connected disability from a shorter period of service, may also be a veteran, such as yourself…if you have any SC disabilities rated by VA or the Service for your period of service. If you don’t, you might want to apply, because you might qualify. Maybe. Only the VA can say no, and they provide for appeals.
If you were a Regular, then your basic training and all other active duty was “active duty,” and is qualifying for veteran status, as defined in law.
If you were a reserve, then your basic training, all MOS schools, any other courses, all drill weekends/inactive duty for training, and all annual training (2 weeks per year) was “active duty for training,” which is not qualifying service for veteran status (unless disability occurs there). Only Federal, Title 10 “calls to duty” such as for mobilizations, contingencies, or even 12301d service for ADOS/ADSW orders to serve on active duty, those are qualifying, day for day, and I would say that ANY such calls to duty under Title 10, if completed as required, are qualifying for “veteran” status.
If you were discharged without being afforded the protections of the disability evaluation system, and without being given a medical evaluation board, you might still be able to change your discharge by submitting an appeal to the Board for Correction of Military/Naval/Air Force records. This preserves your rights.
Otherwise, you should apply to the VA or a state agency for any veteran benefit you think you are eligible for, as only that Agency can give you a decision; everyone else’s comments are just opinions on the matter.
Good luck,
Colby
Posted at 19:33h, 26 OctoberJust to be clear. I served in the Army National Guard. Went through Basic Training, AIT did my 6 years going to drill once a month and 2 weeks a year in the summer and then 2 years inactive and was discharged after completion of service. Am I a Veteran?
Rodriguez
Posted at 23:47h, 15 SeptemberDepends, on Your Basic Training and AIT did you reached the magic number of days of 180 days? If so then you DD214 should say honorable discharge , otherwise will say other than. I am like you but I did not take the 2 years non active reserve , I did my whole 8 years, my licence says veteran, in the State of Pennsylvania, Puerto Rico give me 5 point for state exams I hope in NY honor the same, I get discount. If you want to now check if you were active for 180 and have a DD214 as honorable discharge
Will Bentley
Posted at 01:04h, 08 FebruaryAfter 8 Sept 1980, if you were a Regular, you must serve 24 months, or the contracted obligated service if less (which was unlikely) of active duty, OR be discharged/retired for disability, to be a “veteran.”
If you were a reserve, you must serve either 24 months of Title 10 federal active duty, OR the contracted obligated period of active duty, OR the period for which mobilized under contingency authorities (like 10 USC 12302 or 12304), OR be discharged/retired for disability, to be a “veteran.”
However, someone who has a service-connected disability from a shorter period of service, may also be a veteran, such as yourself…if you have any SC disabilities rated by VA or the Service for your period of service. If you don’t, you might want to apply, because you might qualify. Maybe. Only the VA can say no, and they provide for appeals.
If you were a Regular, then your basic training and all other active duty was “active duty,” and is qualifying for veteran status, as defined in law.
If you were a reserve, then your basic training, all MOS schools, any other courses, all drill weekends/inactive duty for training, and all annual training (2 weeks per year) was “active duty for training,” which is not qualifying service for veteran status (unless disability occurs there).
If you were discharged without being afforded the protections of the disability evaluation system, and without being given a medical evaluation board, you might still be able to change your discharge by submitting an appeal to the Board for Correction of Military/Naval/Air Force records. This preserves your rights.
Otherwise, you should apply to the VA or a state agency for any veteran benefit you think you are eligible for, as only that Agency can give you a decision; everyone else’s comments are just opinions on the matter.
Good luck,
Dave
Posted at 13:10h, 13 October“Full-time
Active-duty service is simply full time. Active-duty members are available for duty 24 hours per day, 7 days a week, with the exclusion of leave (vacation) or pass (authorized time off). Active-duty members fall under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Department of Defense and can serve in the Army, Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard.”
Doesn’t the U.S. Coast Guard work for the Department of Homeland Security unless in time of war???
hannah
Posted at 00:25h, 08 Novemberhi i want to take this min to say thank u veterans for serving the country u mean a lot to me and other people. Thanks u so much
_hannah
Will Bentley
Posted at 01:00h, 08 FebruaryYes, the article is wrong about that. Unless transferred in time of war or national emergency, the USCG operates under the DHS.
Although individual Coast Guardsmen may be detailed to serve with the DoD in various capacities…their entire Service hasn’t been transferred since WWII.
Cheers,
DS B
Posted at 17:21h, 19 SeptemberServed in USAF. May 1981 – Sep 1982. Discharged general under Honorable with PPD – later formally diagnosed with Autism/Aspergers. Issue is I was in just short of 180 days. 172 days to be exact. According to what I was told on separation was that I was entitled to nothing, to get nothing and could never get it amended. I am thoroughly embarrassed and break down any time I try to go to find out if I a even entitled to a flag on my coffin.
Because it was short of 180 days, I am not technically a veteran correct? I am going back to school and don’t want to lie on my forms. I also don’t wish to say that I am if I am not – which is why I rarely talk about that part of my life.
David Highley
Posted at 23:50h, 08 DecemberYou are a veteran if you were discharged honorably. VA benefit eligibility has more requirements so just because you may not qualify for VA benefits, you are entitled to military honors regarding funeral and certainly check the veteran box unless it specifically calls out combat veteran.
Megan
Posted at 15:51h, 21 DecemberThank you for your feedback!
Jim
Posted at 19:27h, 01 JulyI know of a person who served less than four months and was discharged because he could not handle it. He had no medical condition, he just wanted out. (There is also an entry-level separation given usually within the first 180 days for medical or other reasons.) They are usually not considered a veteran.
He claims he is a veteran and uses it in his business which I think is a sham. His was not an dishonorable discharge but he is hardly a veteran in my opinion. With all of the people trying to claim this honor there should be a CLEAR definition of what it requires to be a Veteran!
DS B must have his dates wrong as May, 1981 to Sept 1982 is much longer than 180 days. I respect that he wants to be sure before stating he is a veteran, shows integrity.
Rob
Posted at 16:03h, 15 MayI was discharged(separated) with a week left in basic, I had issues with my back. Was told I would not be able to get any type of benefits but I believe I’m still considered a veteran according to the definition. Personally, I don’t like to answer that I’m a veteran. I don’t want or need benefits, their are plenty of soldiers that need it already who don’t get it. Am I wrong in the assumption that I’m a veteran? Basic training is technically active duty, correct?
Will Bentley
Posted at 00:53h, 08 FebruaryAfter 8 Sept 1980, if you were a Regular, you must serve 24 months, or the contracted obligated service if less (which was unlikely) of active duty, OR be discharged/retired for disability, to be a “veteran.”
However, someone who has a service-connected disability from a shorter period of service, may also be a veteran, such as yourself.
If you were a Regular, then your basic training was “active duty,” and is qualifying for veteran status, as defined in law.
If you were a reserve, then your basic training was “active duty for training,” which is not qualifying service for veteran status (unless disability occurs there).
If you were discharged without being afforded the protections of the disability evaluation system, and given a medical evaluation board, you might still be able to change your discharge by submitting an appeal to the Board for Correction of Military/Naval/Air Force records. This preserves your rights.
Otherwise, you should apply to the VA or a state agency for any veteran benefit you think you are eligible for, as only that Agency can give you a decision; everyone else’s comments are just opinions on the matter.
Good luck,
Lt. X
Posted at 04:10h, 04 JulyI half ass agree with you about the person who quit after 4 months and claims it on his business. Reason is, regardless of his length of time in service he still served even if only very little which kind of makes him a veteran. Because I am sure he went in with good intentions, until he found out how fit a true soldier must be or become. So I’m sure his heart was in the right place when he enlisted. However if he received a DD214 Honorable, then “technically” he is a veteran, however loosely fitting to be so recognized as one. If/when he uses the status to gain recognition or acceptance and he feels undeserving inside himself in that/those moment(s), well then he’s lying to himself and others, however he will truly know for certain. if he did not receive one (DD214), then NOPE. Although I say, he most likely would’ve made it (who knows how far), if he was a member of a better squad, platoon or company with troops who are aware of their surroundings, noticed his lack of confidence and took action in any way necessary to instill higher levels of confidence in this guy. Why?? Because experienced Veterans like us know that a squad, platoon, company, etc. Is only as strong as it’s weakest member.
I definitely agree with you on making a CLEAR definition of the requirements to gaining “Veteran” status and the ability to use that Honor publicly. I did 8 years two active army and the rest Army National Guard so two Honorable discharges DD214 and NGB 56 and service connected disability.
Rodriguez
Posted at 23:41h, 15 SeptemberIf you have never reached the 180 days , you are not a veteran, why because you discharge will say other than, instead for those even for training purposes did 180 days the DD214 says Honorable discharge , go check your DD@!$ if your discharge says other than then you are not a veteran , I did 8 years as reservist and I am considered by some states a veteran , even my driver licence says veteran, I still get discounts even points in city jobs specially in Pennsylvania. I hope NY Honor that too like in Pennsylvania. I hope that our new President will recognized all reservist and national guard who did 8 years first term the status of veteran, that is fair . all who got the balls to join the armed forces we are first class citizens , meanwhile the rest of the citizens do not do nothing do not serve. I am a Puertorican for served my Nation , all the men in my father’s side served since WWI and the rest, We speak Spanish but we are and feel americans, it is the responsibility of any US citizen regardles what commonwealth states or place in US defend and protect the constitution
Terry
Posted at 06:37h, 20 SeptemberI am glad to see someone else feels as I do. I served with an Army Reserve Unit from 1969 to 1975 and was honorably discharged. I am told by Veterans who served in Vietnam that if I signed the papers and was willing to be called up that I deserve the title Veteran. The State of Texas recognizes me as a Veteran why doesn’t the Federal Government. They make us out to be second class citizens and that isn’t right. I am eligible to join the American Legion so what is the Federal Government’s problem.
Mark
Posted at 11:35h, 06 JuneAmerican Legion will take anybody, doesn’t count. Just because YOU consider yourself to be something, doesn’t mean it is true by law or qualification. Rachel Dolezal “considers” herself to be black, but she isn’t.
Antwan Hankerson
Posted at 21:03h, 14 Februarymy father served in nam and I was told that there was a claim up under the agent orange that they sprayed over there for not just only the vets of Vietnam before those children and so on that suffer from deficiency of the agent orange
Will Bentley
Posted at 00:58h, 08 FebruaryYou need to talk to your County Veterans Service Officer; every county in the US has at least one. Make an appointment, and find out more about your question. Good luck,
Will Bentley
Posted at 00:57h, 08 FebruaryAfter 8 Sept 1980, if you were a Regular, you must serve 24 months, or the contracted obligated service if less (which was unlikely) of active duty, OR be discharged/retired for disability, to be a “veteran.”
However, someone who has a service-connected disability from a shorter period of service, may also be a veteran, such as yourself…if you have any SC disabilities rated by VA or the Service for your period of service. If you don’t, you might want to apply, because you might qualify. Maybe. Only the VA can say no, and they provide for appeals.
If you were a Regular, then your basic training was “active duty,” and is qualifying for veteran status, as defined in law.
If you were a reserve, then your basic training was “active duty for training,” which is not qualifying service for veteran status (unless disability occurs there).
If you were discharged without being afforded the protections of the disability evaluation system, and without being given a medical evaluation board, you might still be able to change your discharge by submitting an appeal to the Board for Correction of Military/Naval/Air Force records. This preserves your rights.
Otherwise, you should apply to the VA or a state agency for any veteran benefit you think you are eligible for, as only that Agency can give you a decision; everyone else’s comments are just opinions on the matter.
Good luck,
fred wagner millhouse
Posted at 16:57h, 11 SeptemberArmy national Guard why no health benefits I served from 1970 to 1976
VA.org Editor
Posted at 20:27h, 12 SeptemberBasic Eligibility
If you served in the active military service and were separated under any condition other than dishonorable, you may qualify for VA health care benefits. Current and former members of the Reserves or National Guard who were called to active duty by a federal order and completed the full period for which they were called or ordered to active duty may be eligible for VA health benefits as well.
Reserves or National Guard members with active duty for training purposes only do not meet the basic eligibility requirement.
Check here for more information: https://www.va.gov/healthbenefits/apply/veterans.asp
Ralph Broeils
Posted at 01:04h, 02 NovemberYou are eligible for disability benefits if your disability event occurred while on duty and there was a Line of Duty Report issued with that event. National Guard.
Mark
Posted at 11:28h, 06 JuneHe didn’t say anything about disability.
leevesterclay
Posted at 01:33h, 06 MarchTo be eligible, the National Guardsman or reservist must have served at least one day on federal active duty during any of the delimiting periods in booth camp ( during war time ). The person must either have an honorable discharge or currently be serving either in the Guard, reserve is considered on federal active duty. The key to determining if a Guardsman or reservist has been on or is currently serving on federal active duty is the authority line on his or her activation orders. In both cases, Title 10, Subsection 672 or 12301 are orders from the Secretary of Defense are federal orders, while in booth camp during war time.
Patrick Kruger
Posted at 11:25h, 13 NovemberJohn you are a veteran!
All persons who have served in the military, including the reserves/National Guard, are considered to be veterans. But unless you have a DD 214 verifying service in or during war time or Title 10 reserve time during a conflict mission, you are not eligible for the Federal benefits!|
This could change if you get a 20 year Letter of Eligibility which will entitle you to all the benefits enjoyed by active duty retiree counterparts!
Patrick Kruger
Posted at 11:33h, 13 NovemberLeevesterclay; sounds like you’re joining the American Legion! That’s their eligibility requirements!
Must have a DD 214 or have been mobilized under titles 10 or 32 which will get you a DD 214, to be considered a Veteran and eligible for federal benefits under the GI Bill.
Anyone who has served in the military including the reserves is considered to be a veteran. The difference is which veterans are eligible for Federal Benefits
Domenic A Laurenza Jr
Posted at 21:30h, 11 Augustwhat part if, if any, of my disability and compensation is income. Iam rated at 100%
VA.org Editor
Posted at 14:15h, 12 AugustVeterans’ benefits are also excluded from Federal taxable income. The following amounts paid to Veterans or their Families are not taxable:
Education, training, and subsistence allowances.
Disability compensation and pension payments for disabilities paid either to Veterans or their Families.
Grants for homes designed for wheelchair living.
Grants for motor vehicles for Veterans who lose their sight or use of their limbs.
Veterans’ insurance proceeds and dividends paid either to Veterans or their beneficiaries, including the proceeds of a Veteran’s endowment policy paid before death.
Interest on insurance dividends left on deposit with the VA.
Benefits under a dependent-care assistance program.
The death gratuity paid to a survivor of a member of the Armed Forces who died after September 10, 2001.
Payments made under the compensated work therapy program.
Any bonus payment by a state or political subdivision because of service in a combat zone.
Domenic A Laurenza Jr
Posted at 21:27h, 11 Augustcan u tell me what part of my disability and compensation. . am 100%. my rent is based on income and my management company says that my D&C
is income. would appreciate a explanation. thank you
VA.org Editor
Posted at 14:08h, 12 AugustYou can find more information about Disability Compensation here: https://www.benefits.va.gov/compensation/types-disability.asp
Ed Zimmerman Jr
Posted at 05:34h, 07 DecemberI served in the PA Army National Guard and the USAR from 1974 to 1991 and discharged with 2 honorable discharges. I put in 186 days of Basic and AIT. I served two Infantry units, two Field Artillery units, one field Combat Support Hospital and one Military Intelligence unit. Minimum of 13+ years of service. I also have a Distinguished Service Award from the United Veterans’ Council and Veterans’ Advisory Commission of Philadelphia. I have also represented the frigate USS UNITED STATES, First Ship of the United States Navy since Sept 1978. According to the above because I was not active I am not entitled to benefits for all that I have done. Is this true? I am requesting verification of benefits. I was not entitled to a DD214.
G
Posted at 04:01h, 13 AprilTo help you understand your benefits (if applicable), type the question,”what is a veteran?”. this guide will give you 98% of definite answer to help. make sure to choose the va.org site. or va.gov/benefits
G
Posted at 04:02h, 13 Aprilnerd moment, sorry. use the site you were on.
Steve
Posted at 22:58h, 26 SeptemberWhat is meant by “COMPLETED a service?” Does completing only basic and AIT considered “completing a service?”
Adam
Posted at 18:11h, 27 SeptemberIt appears that you must have served in active military service. From the Veteran’s Eligibility page on the VA page:
“For the purposes of VA health benefits and services, a person who served in the active military service and who was discharged or released under conditions other than dishonorable is a Veteran…. Most Veterans who enlisted after September 7, 1980, or entered active duty after October 16, 1981, must have served 24 continuous months or the full period for which they were called to active duty in order to be eligible. This minimum duty requirement may not apply to Veterans who were discharged for a disability incurred or aggravated in the line of duty, for a hardship or “early out,” or those who served prior to September 7, 1980. Since there are a number of other exceptions to the minimum duty requirements, VA encourages all Veterans to apply so that we may determine their enrollment eligibility.”
https://www.va.gov/healthbenefits/apply/veterans.asp
Randy
Posted at 16:10h, 17 SeptemberI have the same question. 13 years in USAR – captain.
Robert T Gilliam
Posted at 20:20h, 14 JuneI was in the Army reserve for four years, I understand that I do not qualify for VA benefits but I’m I considered a veteran? I can’t seem to fine that written any place. Thanks
John Lane
Posted at 12:46h, 26 JuneThe Federal Government does not consider Reservist to be Veteran’s unless you had prior Active Duty Service in the full time Military, were called up to Active Duty and served in war time or served 20 year’s in the Reserve. I too was in the Reserve. I was in the Marine Corps Reserve for 4 year’s. I went to the same Boot Camp and have 2 MOS. We did our 1 weekend per month and our 2 week’s a year. My Dad talked me out of going Active Duty in case I didn’t like it. I signed up Delay entry at 17. By the time I got in I had decided to go to EMT school and work on an Ambulance Service. If I had not done that I would have gone active. I realize that their is a difference between Active Duty and Reserve but to me I went through the same Boot Camp and school’s so even though I am not considered a Veteran by the Government’s standard I will continue to call myself one until I die. I have never been to war nor lived the 24/7 active life I am still a Marine !! Obama signed into Law that all Reserve and National Guard Member’s that fought in War Time for went in Country are considered Veteran’s. Before you were not !
Daryl Reed
Posted at 19:43h, 30 Junei submitted this so everyone who was concerned if they were a veteran of not can read what is on the VA website, it was nit to say you are a veteran or not, but thank you for your service and dedication to our great country.
Ryan Armstrong
Posted at 17:46h, 21 MarchJohn you are absolutely right. The U.S. Government didn’t invent the word “veteran”. A “veteran” is an individual who served in the Armed Forces. Folks confuse “veteran” with the U.S. Government’s extension of “benefits”. I too served as a traditional Reservist for 11 years. I drilled the full 8 years in the Coast Guard Reserve, and then did a 3 year enlistment in the Navy Reserve. I went to Coast Guard Basic Training in 1990 and then 10 weeks to learn my rate of Yeoman the following year. In the Navy Reserve I was a Legalman and completed a 6 week course at the Naval Justice School. I qualify for a VA Home Loan, and I still have VGLI. I now shop online with the Coast Guard and Navy Exchanges by way of that new benefit for “veterans” granted last November. I earned 14 medals and awards in both services. If I can’t wear a ball cap that says “veteran” on it, then something is seriously wrong. I don’t qualify for VA Healthcare, and I won’t get a VA Headstone for my grave, BUT I am entitled to Graveside Military Honors and a US Flag for my family. I never received a DD-214, but have 2 DD-256s. I took 2 Oaths of Enlistment and have 2 seabags full of uniforms. It’s all about controlling the flow of $$$-that’s the bottom line for the Government use of the term “Veteran”. Otherwise, if I’ve served and earned as I did above, if I’m not a “veteran”, then what the Hell am I? By the way, I’ve been a member of the American Legion for 26 years-they say that “a veteran is a veteran is a veteran”, and obviously admitted me based on my military service record. I’m also a member of the FRA (Fleet Reserve Association). If I’m not a “veteran” then how could I join a “veterans organization”?
Mark
Posted at 11:26h, 06 JuneSome of those “clubs” will take anybody just to get the dues, and or qualify for group benefits.
An Army Reserve veteran
Posted at 08:41h, 21 MayJust an FYI……
The Veterans Identification Card Act 2015 has officially given legal veteran status to all who served in the Reserves and National Guard, even if they weren’t mobilized.
It doesn’t grant additional benefits, but before this law, only service personnel that fit certain criteria could call themselves “Veterans” under VA guidelines.
That’s all changed with this new ID law.
The new rules from the VA are that anyone who completed their enlistment with the National Guard or Reserves under honorable conditions, and received an NGB-22, NGB-55, or DD-214 proving their service, will received an ID card with the VA Logo stating that they are a “Veteran.”
Cheers,
An Army Reserve veteran
who
Posted at 23:31h, 23 DecemberCheck with your state- as you are a state vet; just not necessarily a federal one- which federal gen receive better benefits, but I’d trade my federal for your civilian life anytime. All I got for my gulf era service was never ending suffering- lacking income homelessness, and hunger- o’ the joys of service, never cease.
George Pope
Posted at 13:14h, 30 OctoberThe Information I Found Above Is This: There are two National Guard types: the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard. National Guard members attend basic training and military job school full time under ADT (active duty for training), similar to the Reserves.
They resume daily civilian life but train one weekend per month (IDT) in addition to 15 full-time training days per year. This type of IDT/ADT time doesn’t count toward veteran’s benefits., If You Need Further Assistance Check With Your Local VA Representative Or You Can Go To Your Local American Legion, They Should Have A Representative There That Can Help You Find The Answer’s You Have If Not They Should Be Able To Point You In The Right Direction.
Dan Kaye Lindsey
Posted at 03:13h, 18 OctoberYes
Pierre
Posted at 11:48h, 26 NovemberMost of the time when you separate from svcriee you have to turn in your ID, will you also accept DD214 s or other proof of svcriee? Thanks, I think this is great you guys are doing this!
Will Bentley
Posted at 00:30h, 08 FebruaryDD-214 is the gold standard of proof of service, but what is contained on the DD-214 may or may not be able to prove you are a ‘veteran’ or eligible for a specific veteran’s benefit. Every benefit has its own prerequisites, but a DD-214 is a requirement for most of them (unless the benefit can be obtained solely with reserve service…of which there are some, in which case the NGB-22 or a set of orders with travel paid, or other proof, may be necessary). Good luck,
alburt smith
Posted at 16:05h, 16 Octoberwhy local veteran party of local block clubs in Michigan other states now and the future
Veteran Assistance
Posted at 20:47h, 16 OctoberNot certain what your question is?
Keith
Posted at 09:45h, 17 AugustI would like to take my dd214 and shove it up Congress asses. Got administrated discharged in 83 spent 18 months in army if I would have known about length of service requirement for benefits at that time I would have fought discharge and got medical discharge. So now I have a honorable discharge dd214 that’s is only suitable to wipe my ass with.
Lila
Posted at 12:29h, 11 NovemberIt is YOU’RE responsibility to take care of yourself and do your own research. You have no one to blame but yourself for not knowing what you were getting into. Take responsibility for your own life and actions. No one owes you a Fucking thing you ungrateful ignorant POS.
John
Posted at 20:10h, 06 JanuaryI’m with Lila on this one. The military wasn’t created to give you a free ride Keith. This military is for men and women who fight for America. If you’re only in it for yourself, then you’ve picked the wrong occupation.
Will Bentley
Posted at 00:27h, 08 FebruaryIf you think you were wrongly discharged, and should have had a medical evaluation board first, you always have the right to submit to the Board for Correction of Military Records. BCMR has the power to order your discharge be reviewed (even today, nearly 40 years later) in light of more ‘modern’ methods, to see if indeed you got railroaded in some manner (and we know that happens). But if there was no actual error or injustice, according to the laws and regulations of that day, then BCMR will rule against you. However, you will have preserved your rights, and can appeal that decision, perhaps with an attorney who specializes in military disability claims. Good luck,